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Object Plugins / Re: (version 1.0)
Hi Mike
I'm trying to use this plug in to create a label at the beginning of verses. Is there a way to make it show up only on the first line? I don't want it on the subsequent lines of the song (I do want different labels on the beginning of each verse). Is there a different solution for what I seek?

Thanks for your help!
General Discussion / Rounds
I just learned how to do something new because of this thread: end with something other than the normal double bar line!

I have been writing and notating rounds lately for my choir. Here is a favourite that I was able to change the ending on. It looks great on my screen. However, when I go to print...trouble! It's probably best to keep it as a single line piece but I do like hearing the sound of the round.

General Discussion / Re: File and Project Organization
I use Eric's PageTxtMaestro to place lots of information in the "Page Number" location.  I use information stored in the comments section of the File Info dialogue. 

I have been experimenting with  adding more information to the score using PageTxtMaestro. I'm having a couple of problems:

I can't seem to get the title to load.

I would like the heading to indicate full score, but I need clarinet to show up on the score print out. But I need the top stave to say "full score" to make the header show "full score".

I'm uploading the first couple of measures so you can see what might be the issue.

Also, I didn't find a simple solution for adding the date to the score, but I found a Stamp in Adobe that I can add after the final print out using PDFCreator which says "Revised" with the date and time. It is one extra step but I think it is the simplest extra step for me. PDF forge doesn't seem to include the ability to include date in the free version of PDFCreator.

Thanks for your help,
General Discussion / Re: File and Project Organization
I am underutilizing pagetextmaestro and need to take  time to think and plan what to include on my scores.

Thanks for the tip about the PDF dates. That might be the solution. I need something preset so I don’t have to rely on a faulty memory. 
General Discussion / Re: Layering Keyboard Shortcut
Yes, I do use the toggle switch and this is a good feature to have but I find I’m using keyboard shortcuts more these days. It’s quicker and more comfortable. I’ve discovered the Alt V A Shortcut and am learning to use it.

What would really be useful is a shortcut for open Book icon where you set up margins and fonts, etc.
General Discussion / Re: Text running off the printed page
I agree with Rick about right-justifying the text string at a bar line.

One caveat - if the text string is too long and now appears at the end of the first measure of the new staff, if may then spill over the left margin.  The solution is to break the text into a couple of shorter text entries: 
Allegro ma non troppo
Allegro [break]
ma non troppo.

Is there a way to do that break within one text function or does it require two text entries?
General Discussion / Re: tempo track examples
This will definitely save time. I've been putting a lot of duplicate information in all the staves. How important is it for this tempo stave to be just one line? It it's going to be invisible, and layered, does it matter?
General Discussion / Re: An idea
Sorry to hear about the family situation.

Thanks for the update. Don’t feel guilty about it. It’s a good idea and when the time is right, it will come together.
General Discussion / Re: Bells Used Chart
Earlier in this thread, there was some discussion about using EMF to create an optional ending. How do I save from NWC into that format? I don't see it on the "save as" or export options? I read that it has to do with printing something...

General Discussion / Re: sideways wavy line
I'm replying to myself in case anyone ever searches for this topic (like me, when I forget how to do this!)

Using the insert button to add one space after the last squiggle will keep them from crossing over the bar line:

Code: [Select · Download]

General Discussion / tempo track examples
In a previous post on swing tempo, this was posted:

If you use NWC to print parts, the Tempo track is indespensible.  Things that all parts need to see like rehearsal symbols and tempo are all on a staff that is layered into the part you are currently printing.

Could I see some examples of what that track might look like?
Object Plugins / Re: (1.0)
This discussion has been helpful.

My soloists seem to want cue notes so I have been giving them the melodic line for about two measures before their entry.  The cue notes tool is really helpful.

I would really like a tool to create smaller staves as well such as for piano reductions or optional parts. 
Object Plugins / Re: (2.1)
Eeks, Mike, is there a way to do this without tweaking code? I don't even know where I would start. Sometimes getting the computer up and running is enough of a challenge. :)
General Discussion / Re: Learning to crescendo and decrescendo
I suggest using SyFonOne, which doesn't require any complicated setup, although you'll need a virtual MIDI driver (I use LoopBe) and a sound font (FluidR3 works well). Another approach - although this doesn't work on the fly - is to export as MIDI and then use an online service such as SolMiRe to convert it to an MP3, using the sound font of your choice from their list.

I have been using the SolMiRe website this year to do conversions, and the sound is much better than my own computer, but I would like to get things set up on my computer so I don't have to outsource it. Thus, I am revisiting this topic again.

I found this sound font that I would like to try out. I have been using the "music box" setting to imitate handbells, but am hoping this would be better for preparing a sample mp3.

I'm just not sure the best way to get set up for this. I did find some other free sound fonts.
User Tools / Re: Copy and past measures of mutiple staves

Well I am known for missing bar lines but I didn’t see anything amiss. There was a single bar line instead of a double in one layer of a layered SA choral section. Would that cause it?
General Discussion / Text running off the printed page
Sometimes when I go to print, I find my text running off the printed page. It might be a label, such as "Children". This often happens after I have changed something and the text measure gets bumped over to a different position. When I first insert the label, I check to see that it looks ok.

Is there anything that I can do to keep the text from doing this?
General Discussion / Filtered Properties
I'm going to learn to do something new in NWC: use Filtered properties. I've used it before to move dynamics around on the score. It works really well. What else could I do with FP? What do y'all use it for?

General Discussion / Re: File and Project Organization
I'm revisiting this thread to say that the struggle is real. I am still fighting disorganization.

3 things that sort of help are:

1. An alphabetical spreadsheet that I update with titles, instrumentation, key, genre, when finished and when performed (and with whom). It doesn't show all the works in progress or ideas/fragments though. Those are a hot mess of chaos.

2. A Word document organized by instrumentation with just titles and dates

3. A CV list of works that includes the titles, dates and the performance information (so a bit of a combo of 1 and 2)

I never did become diligent about labelling drafts by dates, or numbers. It resulted in two embarrassing moments this year - one, in a rehearsal at the university, the soloist had the wrong draft (his fault, and we quickly found the updated one that I had emailed to him) but then I discovered there was an even newer update. Did it matter? Yes, because the pianist had the most current version. The only way we figured it out was when problems occurred in rehearsal. Version numbers in the title would have overcome this issue, and keeping better track of which version was the final one.

Second embarrassing moment: after a concert, I asked the soloist why she had sung the wrong lyrics in one phrase of a piece, and she showed me her score. She did not have the lyric change. Did it matter? Yes, I had changed the lyrics for a reason but I had not sent her the update.

It's just unprofessional and disorderly, and I feel stupid. I will try again.

In the meantime, has anyone else come up with any more good organizational tips for their composition/engraving work?

User Tools / Re: Copy and past measures of mutiple staves
It's a year later, and I have finally had time to try out this new tool. It's strange to say, but I was afraid to spend extra time figuring out something new!

I was able to successfully cut out a chunk from an 8 stave composition, including the lyrics (which I have always had to edit manually previously). It was fairly quick and definitely faster than doing it individually (which can get confusing).

One glitch that happened twice (I redid it to check and see) was that one stave had one extra measure cut out of it. I'm not sure why this would be. Any insights?

A feature that would be useful would be an "undo" function.

Thank you for creating a useful tool! I can see myself using this regularly.
Object Plugins / Re: Beam.hmm (0.9)
Sorry for the confusion caused by a hasty post without enough musical information such as clefs and instrumentation.

This is actually a handbell score which looks a bit like a very busy piano score but these notes are possibly played by separate ringers, depending upon the bell distribution. There is also a convention that the score splits at middle D so anything below D is placed in the bass staff.
General Discussion / Re: Bells Used Chart
The trouble I am having is that my bass clef stave is not lining up with the others. The first rest is being given four beats instead of three. The other issue is the clefs spacing is wonky -- small at times and not at the  beginning of the line.

See the pics attached.

Thanks for your insights into solving this issue.
General Discussion / Re: Bells Used Chart
Well, I'm back again wrestling with "bells used" charts!

Does anyone have any time/inclination/strength to look at the feasibility of an object that might handle this task? I am going to be studying handbell composing in the near future, so I anticipate needing to create these charts regularly. I tried copying and pasting one chart to another piece and the results made me want to run and hide...
Object Plugins / Re: Beam.hmm (0.8)
How would I use this object to achieve cross stave beaming?

Here is the lower stave


and here is the middle stave:

which is layer with the upper stave:


Would it look better to have the eighth notes on beats 2 and 3 beamed across the staves? If so, how is this achieved. I could not figure out how to get the middle stave stems to show up without the flags.

Thanks for your help.
General Discussion / Beginner Tuba range
This is not a notation question, but a composition question. I am writing a piece for a beginner tuba player (first year, first term). What range will he be able to play? I googled but couldn't find such a specific answer. Anyone out there know?


General Discussion / Disappearing Notes
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]

These notes don't show up on the print out for some reason. They are layered with another two staves.

Thanks for your help.
General Discussion / Re: Spacing out endings
I am interested as I now have two harpists interested in my composition work. When I wrote the pieces for the first university ensemble this past year, it was a totally new experience and I had a terrible time with the gliss. line. It would get out of sync with any edits that shifted the measure over. I kept having to fiddle with it over and over.

This ensemble has requested more pieces.
I also just met another harpist on Monday.
General Discussion / Re: Spacing out endings
 Sometimes it’s a long broken chord with altered notes or a glissando that gets spelled out. In piano scoring I’ve run up against the issue as well.

You don’t actually use the line in harp scoring because it’s idiomatic to play that way.
General Discussion / Re: Spacing out endings
Thanks, Jfb. I had noticed this year when writing harp arpeggios that the fast runs seemed to take up a lot of space on the score. I think you’ve explained why. I’ll have to go back and count.

I’m glad this thread is getting some discussion! 🎶