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User Tools / Re: File Organization
I'm getting a new error message with the new installation. I removed the old one first. Perhaps that was a mistake:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\gustv\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38\Lib\site-packages\cx_Freeze\initscripts\__startup__.py", line 40, in run
  File "C:\Users\gustv\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38\Lib\site-packages\cx_Freeze\initscripts\Console.py", line 37, in run
  File "file_organization.py", line 400, in <module>
  File "file_organization.py", line 68, in read_score
  File "C:\Users\gustv\PycharmProjects\PYNWC\nwc.py", line 617, in __init__
  File "C:\Users\gustv\PycharmProjects\PYNWC\nwc.py", line 127, in __init__
  File "C:\Users\gustv\PycharmProjects\PYNWC\nwc.py", line 136, in check
AttributeError: module 'nwc_terms' has no attribute 'type_opt_value_list'
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User Tools / Re: File Organization
Have you tried it on another file with the same result?

I actually was able to get that file to work. I was cancelling instead of exiting after I ran the tool.

You mention you get an error message, what does it exactly say?

In a different file, I am getting an error message related to visibility and key signatures. I have a hidden staff for a descant line. Have you tried the tool when there is a hidden staff?

Here's the traceback when I cancel:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "file_organization.py", line 68, in read_score
  File "C:\Users\gustv\PycharmProjects\PYNWC\nwc.py", line 612, in __init__
  File "C:\Users\gustv\PycharmProjects\PYNWC\nwc.py", line 127, in __init__
  File "C:\Users\gustv\PycharmProjects\PYNWC\nwc.py", line 138, in check
AssertionError: |Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab|Tonic:E|Visibility:Never: field Visibility not in ['Signature', 'Tonic', 'HideCancels', 'AutoSys']

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\gustv\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38\Lib\site-packages\cx_Freeze\initscripts\__startup__.py", line 40, in run
  File "C:\Users\gustv\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38\Lib\site-packages\cx_Freeze\initscripts\Console.py", line 37, in run
  File "file_organization.py", line 400, in <module>
  File "file_organization.py", line 71, in read_score
AssertionError: |Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab|Tonic:E|Visibility:Never: field Visibility not in ['Signature', 'Tonic', 'HideCancels', 'AutoSys']
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I figured out that I had renamed a file folder in the path. Once I redid the path, everything began saving normally again.

Thanks for helping me unravel that mystery, Rich.
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User Tools / Re: File Organization
I'm getting an error message when I try to use that function. It asks me if I want to save the change. I say yes. And then it takes me to the screen with my score and I can't do anything else from there except cancel. I cannot do a print preview. What am I doing wrong?
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User Tools / Re: File Organization
I started using this tool today. I like being able to put the date modified in the File info comments.

Can you explain how to use the "create user objects to print date modified" option?

Thanks
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Would this be able to take care of what sounds to me like accented chords even when there is no accent on the notes? It destroys the mood that I am trying to achieve in the music sometimes. Is there an automatic accent for the downbeat? If so, in some cases I would like to reduce that.
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I usually use Unison at that Conversion  website and quite like the sound. I haven't heard of Merlin but will google.

I just bought a Zoom recorder for live audio Recording and it came with Cubase, which I am downloading as we speak.
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User Tools / Re: File Organization
Sorry, I've been working under Production deadlines but will let you know when I am able to do so. Thanks for checking in.
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It might help if you say how you do your conversions.
Do you use the Viewer or do you use a midi to mp3 converter?


Do you have any recommended sources for synth fonts?
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I use Solmire online conversion. I'd rather keep it in house, if anyone has suggestions on what to use.

https://solmire.com/
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Hi

I've noticed that when I make mp3 conversions of my work, the accompaniment (piano) always sounds like it is being "pounded", despite the dynamic level I use. I would like to achieve a more musical effect. Is this possible? I am not sure what to look for in the forum; I don't mind checking out other discussions on the topic. Is it a velocity issue?
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General Discussion / Re: Uninstall nwc 1
Yes, I guess it's that or a new computer but I'm not thrilled about that option.

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General Discussion / Re: Uninstall nwc 1
 :D

Yes and I got the very helpful point. It's going to be a challenge for me because as a performing composer, I want to hang on to all performances of my work, whether by me or others. Due to the limitations of my smaller hard drive, it did fill up much faster than expected.

Thanks, as always, for your input and help.
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General Discussion / Re: Uninstall nwc 1
Just thought I'd post a quick update: I did uninstall NWC 1, not so much for space reasons, but because I will never use it again, so why keep it around.

I did get a program to show me where the large files are (WinDirStat) and have off-loaded the biggies. They were not, as Mike suggested, cat videos, but videos of university orchestration and composition courses.

I was able to reclaim some space, which I am now happily filling up again. It's a short term solution, to be sure, but has helped with some weird issues I was having possibly due to low space.
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Object Plugins / Re: Trill.ms (2.1)
Mike, I've moved the question here, https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=10023.0
as it is related to BAK files. Thanks for your help.
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I've recently started having that message pop up when saving that the program is unable to save a BAK file, and do I want to save anyway (which I do). It's possible that I have changed something I shouldn't during a computer housecleaning episode.

This started me thinking whether or not I should fix that issue, or if I actually need the BAK files at all. I've rarely if ever used them, and storage space is becoming an issue on my hard drive, plus I back up my computer onto an external drive regularly.

I did read through the postings on BAK files, and see that some don't use them.

I'm asking for some opinions here (and help for figuring out the unable to save to BAK issue or how to stop the message from appearing).

Edit to add:  my recent question to Mike here ( https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=9201.0) about having different versions of an object plug-in is linked to the fact that the multiples are BAK files, and I think I would like to delete them in that case. Is this a good or bad idea?)

Many thanks
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Thanks for all the work that you (and others) have done to provide additional options and features for NWC.
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Mike, is this the same as TempoEquation.ms, or different, and if so, do I need both?

Thanks
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I'm getting caught up on this plug-in and am happy with the results. I have a question: is there a quick way to undo the action once you have already run it? This is in case you decided to change your score.
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After installing it, I am not hearing any difference between the truncated score and when I removed the markings. I'm not sure why that would be, probably user error on my part.
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As you can see, I'm getting caught up on some object plug-in reading. I wondered how this truncate object has been working out for you? Any further development ideas? I can see its usefulness in preparing rehearsal tracks or audio demos of compositions.
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Object Plugins / Re: EditMark.hmm (0.2)
I'd like to talk to you more about the potential for this tool in my own composition work. Do you have time for that?
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Object Plugins / Re: Trill.ms (2.1)
Hi Mike

I was looking at my computer file for user plug ins and objects, and I noticed that I had two versions of a few things, with different names.

For example, Trill.ms.nwcuser and Trill.ms.nwcuser.lua

Can I safely delete the .lua versions (which have an older date on them)?

Thanks

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User Tools / Re: File Organization
Thanks for developing this tool. I'm going to try it out later today.
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Object Plugins / Re: Hairpin.ms (1.1)
In what circumstances would I want something different than the native tool?
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Object Plugins / Re: Hairpin.ms (1.1)
Hi Mike

I'm not convinced that my regular hairpins actually affect my playback. Perhaps I am not doing something correctly. By using a hidden dynamic, I move my hairpins up and down as needed. What other tricks could I learn from this plug-in of yours?

All the best,
SEBC
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It sounds like it could be a helpful tool, if it is simple to use for a non-techie type of person!

Thanks for thinking about this issue more deeply.
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I thought I'd update  this post.  I've been using the stamp feature in PDF to stamp a "revised  date " prominently on my scores and that has been helpful. It's not automatic so I'm not always consistent.
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General Discussion / Re: Uninstall nwc 1
Thanks for weighing in on this issue. I've come to realize that my new computer from two years ago, which was a gift from my spouse, actually has only a third of the space of my previous. Which I have now filled up. I'm a little shocked to be honest. I'll need to investigate an external drive.

And look for cat videos to delete ...

Thanks for your help!
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General Discussion / Re: Uninstall nwc 1
 I haven't used it for years but it is still on my computer and I want to delete it. I can still open all my files with version 2.75 so it should be fine right?
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General Discussion / Uninstall nwc 1
Is there any reason why I should not uninstall version one since I am now using the latest version? I am running out of room on my computer and I need to delete some apps.
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General Discussion / Re: Edit M4As?
Yes, that's what I was thinking. I wasn't sure if there was something else people were happy with.

Thanks, Mike. Hope you are staying well!
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General Discussion / Edit M4As?
I need to download a program to edit some sound files. Do you have any recommendations?

Thanks
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Does anyone have data on the use of hydroxychloroquine as a cure for the COVID-19 virus? There has been a lot of talk about that on the American news - both for and against. I don't know the answer. But I do know that many people rely on this drug daily for their auto immune diseases.

And now there is a worldwide shortage. My pharmacy told me recently that it has none available. I hope that if it is the cure for the virus, that they will make much, much more.
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I'm late to the party. I've been sick...was it Covid 19? Possibly so, but only people who had travelled were getting tested 2 weeks ago in my part of Canada. We know now that this is a wrong approach, since it denies the community spreading methodology. The local public health also announced after the third case that they would no longer be publicly reporting cases "to prevent patient confidentiality" (more likely, mass hysteria). I've been under lockdown for 2 weeks now because of being ill. The stores are struggling to get supplies on the shelves. I'm also immune compromised, so it's not great to hear about how bad this virus can be. One of my regular meds is the anti-malaria drug that was suggested as being helpful. Maybe it is helping me avoid getting really sick with whatever I've got? However, I just heard from the pharmacy that there is now a worldwide shortage of the drug, which is really bad news for people like me who depend on it for daily living.

I am a performing musician, and in the weeks before I got sick I was out in the community doing an extra amount of multiple choir rehearsals, public church services, funerals, food fellowships, etc. (That's why I suspect I may have picked something up.) I was gearing up for the Easter season, with a mass choir from different churches. Now everything has been put on hold, (and I expect will be cancelled).  I should add that because of my health, I am very cautious with handwashing and sanitizing as a normal routine, and yet I still managed to get sick.

I had a two week Florida vacation booked, which also was cancelled. It's a good thing, since I would have been sick while travelling, and they closed the borders! I'm currently in my music office surrounded by 24 old NWC scores of my work, which I am attempting to review, edit and file. It's a job I have put off for a long time. I also have been working on new compositions, but I am getting a little stir crazy!

Glad to hear from everyone, and to hear the news from your part of the world.

All the best,
SEBC
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No, I haven't. Is there a time limit on how long ago the files were deleted? I don't know when it happened; when I went to retrieve them, they were missing.
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 Thank you for clarifying. I am sensitive about this issue because I have lost files in the past and it is heartbreaking after hours and hours of work. I was never able to find them again for some reason. I am not sure how they got deleted. It must've been user error on my part although I would never have purposely deleted them!
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AAs far as I remember, if you have your back up files folder the same as your autosave files folder, then it doesn't work.
For some reason they have to be different folders. Sorry, I know that doesn't help you.

Not sure that there is anything else I can suggest.

R.



Is this true about the file locations? Why did you edit this statement?

Thanks
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General Discussion / Re: NWC on Facebook
I was happy to see some action and just assumed they were doing some marketing. I never thought about the possibility of replacing the forum with Facebook. That would be unwise, in my opinion.
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General Discussion / NWC on Facebook
I've noticed in the last week that there have been daily posts from NWC on Facebook, with a comment about support and an update in the works!
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Even though I have followed the steps in the user guide, any changes that I make to my templates are not being saved. It says it is saving them, but then when I go back in a reopen the template, the changes don't show up. I am getting a message about not being able to create a back up, and also that it is being saved in a new format and the old format won't be able to open it. I'm not sure how that is influencing the problem, or why those messages are showing up.

Thanks for your help. I've wasted a lot of time on this and am getting frustrated!
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Thanks, Rick. I didn't know about that option before.
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This was an amusing thread to read. For my own performances, I hole punch page 1 and 2 and place in a binder, using plastic tape for page 3 and 4 if I want the music to be laid out at the piano or organ. It can be removed easily for storage of the piece in a big binder. If the piece is longer, then I just hole punch it all and deal with page turns. I'm extremely committed to the binder idea after having music float off the piano onto the floor mid-performance. I've then had to play looking at that music on the floor, but it's not ideal!
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I have a new choir and have been thinking about how to help them learn their parts. I'd welcome feedback on this topic:

What is the best way to deliver the tracks? CD, Internet - on a website, by email? I've got some choir members who don't use computers...

Has anyone (and is there a way to do it) made youtube videos using an mp3 version?

If I had to make a cassette tape (yikes) for someone (are those even still available to purchase?), what would be the best approach?

What else should I be thinking about?

Years ago, a group I worked with could download a trial version of NWC and practice with scores that way, but I don't think that possibility exists anymore, does it? The benefit was they could see the music part light up as they heard it.

Thanks for your input!


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I'm glad that you got this sorted out. I have just begun a new position as choral director and am looking at making some teaching tracks as well, so I've been thinking about the process. In general, what volume levels do you find are best when preparing these?
I have some other questions, which I will post separately.
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If you are going to use this kind of object a lot I'd suggest adding it to your favourite template and then setting the variables in the Authoring Info|Comments field.


Lawrie, thanks for your help with this back in the fall! I have been using this regularly now and it has actually been very helpful to keeping me organized at rehearsal when managing multiple scores for multiple musicians and compositions. I'm off now to add it to my templates.
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User Tools / Re: Updating User tools
I was just thinking about this today as I checked in to see what new things had been developed since my last visit to the forum. I feel like I have missed out on different tools because of either not checking what's being developed (it makes my brain fuzzy to read tech-speak), not looking for updates, and generally being out of the loop due to a busy music/composition schedule. I was hoping for a better system to stay updated on tools and objects. (Automatic systems are probably best).

What would be even better is to have video explanations of new tools! I learn best by seeing them in action. Reading about it just overwhelms me. I'm a musician, not a computer developer. :D
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Hi Mike

I'm interested in trying out this tool. I might need some coaching through the process... my brain feels a bit fried after starting a new position this month as a church music director. I've been writing a ton of music for my new choir and learning how to play the pipe organ!

Thanks for developing another useful contribution to NWC.
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I'm popping to say that I look forward to trying out this tool, and to ask if you could let me know when you've finished the tweaks (posting in this thread should be enough). I was using your other cut/paste tool recently and thinking again about how thankful I was for the time savings!
Best wishes with your surgery recovery.
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Object Plugins / Re: BarLabel.ms (1.1)
Hi Mike

I use the bar label constantly for my scores, so I add my gratitude for your generosity in sharing it with the NWC community. I have a  question: is it possible to add a "preserve width" box? Sometimes I need to add text close by and instead of using insert to add spaces (which sometimes does strange things to other things, such as the crescendo or decrescendo hairpins -- another topic which I will want to explore), or having to move the label up above the text, maybe preserving the width would be better? If it already has this capability, then I have missed it.

Thanks again for your help!