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General Discussion / Re: Strange music typeface
Last post by hmmueller -
I don't know what "sym:" means ...
The other symbols (left-facting halves, funny ending bar) are very typical for hand-written scores from the 1700s and first half of 1800s. Already the second hand-written score I randomly downloaded from IMSLP - see attached image - has these symbols (it is from a concerto for 2 violins from Karl Ditters von Dittersdorf): The quarters have their stems as today, but the halves have them always on the right side of the notehead; and after the double bar, there are these wiggles that are getting smaller and smaller ...
I think that the Musescore community has quite a few people who try to mimic such hand-writings with such fonts ... maybe someone "over there" can help you with such a font (but making int NWC-compatible will be some work ...).
// Edit:
I added another snippet, this time from the print from 1785(!) of a Dittersdorf sinfonia from 1781 with the same sort of symbols (end bar) and customs (stems for minims on always on the right). This is certainly an engraving - might your score also be one? Then, there is no "font" - only the stamps and punches of the - long deceased - engraver ...
H.M.
The other symbols (left-facting halves, funny ending bar) are very typical for hand-written scores from the 1700s and first half of 1800s. Already the second hand-written score I randomly downloaded from IMSLP - see attached image - has these symbols (it is from a concerto for 2 violins from Karl Ditters von Dittersdorf): The quarters have their stems as today, but the halves have them always on the right side of the notehead; and after the double bar, there are these wiggles that are getting smaller and smaller ...
I think that the Musescore community has quite a few people who try to mimic such hand-writings with such fonts ... maybe someone "over there" can help you with such a font (but making int NWC-compatible will be some work ...).
// Edit:
I added another snippet, this time from the print from 1785(!) of a Dittersdorf sinfonia from 1781 with the same sort of symbols (end bar) and customs (stems for minims on always on the right). This is certainly an engraving - might your score also be one? Then, there is no "font" - only the stamps and punches of the - long deceased - engraver ...
H.M.
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General Discussion / Re: Strange music typeface
Last post by Flurmy -
I think the first answer is easy: "sym:" is for "symilar" (or "simile", if you prefer Italian).
What it means here I don't know since I can't see the bars on the left.
I can't say anything about the "side" of the minims.
I saw the last squiggle in some scores.
I don't know for sure what it means but it makes me think of the harp indication "L.V." ("laissez vibrer", let it fade).
What it means here I don't know since I can't see the bars on the left.
I can't say anything about the "side" of the minims.
I saw the last squiggle in some scores.
I don't know for sure what it means but it makes me think of the harp indication "L.V." ("laissez vibrer", let it fade).
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General Discussion / Re: Sull'arco and Giu arco
Last post by hmmueller -Those same symbals are used in organ music for the pedals to indicate using your heel or toe for a specific note.... but there are also other notations for this - for heel, we mostly use a rounded U (like the mathematical "union" sign) hereabouts. And in some notation variants, there are more complex symbols, e.g. for "change from toe to heel on this note."
H.M.
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General Discussion / Strange music typeface
Last post by melismata -
I am in the process of transcribing a piece of music into Noteworthy Composer. It is a Te Deum, by an obscure Victorian composer that was written round about 1849 for a particular event.
The score that I have is PRINTED in some strange music font which, however, does not actually look unpleasant at all. It looks quaint. The minims ALL face to the left, even when they are on the middle line (B or D, depending on the clef) and above. At the end, the music ends in a squiggle. There is also the word "sym:" at places where the voices rest for a bar or two - which I could not find out what it means.
I was wondering what sort of typeface it is and if there are music fonts that reproduce this typeface. They would look nice if used on music from that era.
My grandfather was a drum major in the British army and he used to copy parts for the band (fo ha'penny per page, go figure!). I still remember seeing some of the music that he had copied using that convention for minims and also ending the lines with a squiggle.
An takes on this? (See attached)
The score that I have is PRINTED in some strange music font which, however, does not actually look unpleasant at all. It looks quaint. The minims ALL face to the left, even when they are on the middle line (B or D, depending on the clef) and above. At the end, the music ends in a squiggle. There is also the word "sym:" at places where the voices rest for a bar or two - which I could not find out what it means.
I was wondering what sort of typeface it is and if there are music fonts that reproduce this typeface. They would look nice if used on music from that era.
My grandfather was a drum major in the British army and he used to copy parts for the band (fo ha'penny per page, go figure!). I still remember seeing some of the music that he had copied using that convention for minims and also ending the lines with a squiggle.
An takes on this? (See attached)
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General Discussion / Re: Sull'arco and Giu arco
Last post by Warren Porter -
Those same symbals are used in organ music for the pedals to indicate using your heel or toe for a specific note.
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General Discussion / Re: Sull'arco and Giu arco
Last post by Flurmy -
For the records: the right spelling is "Su l'arco" (bow up) and "Giù l'arco" (bow down).
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General Discussion / Re: Sull'arco and Giu arco
Last post by Lawrie Pardy -The symbols you mention are present in the NWC staff symbols font. Here is an example:They're also in my *Dings font suites!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:7|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:7|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Re: Sull'arco and Giu arco
Last post by Mike Shawaluk -
The symbols you mention are present in the NWC staff symbols font. Here is an example:
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:7|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:7|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Sull'arco and Giu arco
Last post by ItmightbeJB -
I've noticed on string quartet scores there are little marks above some notes that I had to look up to understand their meaning. There is a Sull'arco symbol which looks like a small 'v' and indicates an up bow movement, and a Giu arco symbol which looks like an upside down non-rounded U and indicates a down bow movement. I haven't been able to find anything in NWC to duplicate this. For playback purposes it's probably unnecessary but, are there such symbols in NWC?
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General Discussion / Re: Anchors instead of diamonds
Last post by fitzclan -
Thanks Rich for your quick reply. That isn't exactly what I remember, but just as good. Thanks.