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Messages - Flurmy

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Object Plugins / Re: About Object Plugins
I just discovered that, if you call a plugin with a name starting with "fake", the embedded user tool will execute, but its result will be discarded.
More specifically, it seems that in that case the save() metod does nothing.
Go figure...
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General Discussion / Re: Tie (or slur?) without the tied note.
Aaaaarg! No, please!
Doing things like these remove the "note off" event and you finish having many stuck notes. Try using a different isntrument and you'll see... hear.
Do not mute the grace notes.
If you want to hear the "let ring" effect indicated by the ties use the pedal.
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General Discussion / Re: Violin harmonics
Well, let's forget the theory of the "bow of Bach" that supposedly allowed to play all the 4 strings at once.
Actually the notes are not really played together but, as you can easily hear, with a sort of arpeggio.

The 5 note chord is only a graphical artifact. The true notes are "only" 4.

If I got it right, the artificial harmonics are notated with a standard note where you put your regular finger on and with a diamond where you put the "harmonic" finger on.
In the case of the chord of my example, G and D are open strings, the 1st finger is on the 1st position of tha A string (Bb), the second finger (2) is on the E string on the G position and the fourth finger (4) touches lightly the string on the C position so as to create the harmonic.
If I didn't miscalculate, the latter generates a G two octaves higher... but I'm asking for confimation!
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General Discussion / Violin harmonics
Violinists, help me!
Which notes should I expect to hear here?
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:"2"|Font:PageSmallText|Scale:80|Pos:5.5|Placement:BestFitForward
|Text|Text:"4"|Font:PageSmallText|Scale:80|Pos:8|Wide:Y
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-9,-5,b0,5,8X|Opts:Stem=Up
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Something like this?
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-9,-5,b0,19|Opts:Stem=Down
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Re: Deleting tempo
I agree with Lawrie, but did you consider "Tools -> Options -> Editor -> My expression anchor size"
and "(ditto) -> Object anchor size"?
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General Discussion / Re: Wav and MP3 files from NWC.
Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
Be aware that you will need the NWC 2.8 beta version of the Viewer installed to use the "Play to" feature.
A-ha!
I seemed to remember that it was possible, but I was unable to discover how.
Indeed, in the last reinstall I installed the viewer 2.75a 2.
Probably I didn't keep the original installation file waiting for the official relase... :(
Where can I find version 2.8 beta?
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General Discussion / Re: MIDI import bug
Got it!
If the last note is tenuto then you have note off immediately followed by "end of track".
When NWC imports the MIDI data, the last note is ignored.
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General Discussion / MIDI import bug
I don't know exactly when and how, but when importing MIDI tracks in NWC the last note sometimes is missing.
I need to investigate...
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General Discussion / Re: Just a weekend story
Gosh! But the official Java site, were I expected to find the real java platform, has only version 8, up to date, with no hint suggesting it's (very) old!  >:(
Looking at the Oracle page instead, I see "Java 22, Java 21, and Java 17 available now". No comment  :-X
And there is more: if you're looking just for JRE, like I do, in the Oracle page there is a button saying "JRE for consumers" and, guess what?, it sends you to the official java site with version 8...
Don't let me say what I'm thinking...

Quote from: hmmueller –
(I think it's the same with e.g. Windows versions: You can have "the newest version of Windows 10" - i.e., with all the latest fixes -; but you won't be automatically upgraded to e.g. Windows 11; and other "more complex" software products, like database systems, IDEs, etc.etc.)
Well, my daughter's computer surreptitiously switched from Win10 to Win11, with her great sorrow...  :(

Thank you very much, HM!
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General Discussion / Re: Just a weekend story
Harald, how were you able to use audiveris?
I tried many times but, even if I have the last audiveris and the latest JRE (updated automatically a few minutes ago), the result is always:
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java version "1.8.0_411"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_411-b09)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.411-b09, mixed mode, sharing)

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Audiveris has been compiled by a more recent version of the Java Runtime (class file version 61.0), this version of the Java Runtime only recognizes class file versions up to 52.0
What I'm doing wrong?
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Object Plugins / Re: Trill.ms (2.4)
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Trill objects will be avoided when a trill note is tied.
and the trill at the first note will have the "note span" automatically set to the relevant number to show the extender line.
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General Discussion / Re: View from DownUnder?
Thanks, Mike.
I missed that info. But you must admit the thing is funny!  ;)

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and give you a Vegemite sandwich
Thanks, but I already had supper.  I'll keep il for tomorrow breakfast (time zone adjusted).  :)
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General Discussion / View from DownUnder?
Lawrie,
was NWC intended for you?  :)  :)  :)

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:"Stem=Up"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:15.5
|RestChord|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:2
|Text|Text:"Stem=Down"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:-10
|RestChord|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Funny notation
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
Of course, you're right. Chordplay ignores the staff transposition.

Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
I regularly create charts for several transposing instruments that are identical except for the transpositions (C, Bb and Eb usually) but this is the first time I activated playback of the Chordplay objects on all staves.
Very often I make use of Chordplay but very rarely, if ever, used the play option, so I was unaware of this problem.

I have to investigate what can be done. I think it can be corrected.
Maybe Mike already knows a solution...
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Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.1)
Once you're aware of it it's not absurd, but maybe changing it to take care of the already present beams would be more intuitive.
In this optic, there is also the problem of manually lengthen the note stem to make room for the tremolo.
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Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.1)
Mike, I don't know, otherwise I'd have discussed it with you.
I'll try looking at some books, unless someone else here already knows the answer.
Anyway, as I wrote, the thing is rational.
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Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.1)
I recently made the same discovery.
The fact is that the speed of the tremolo is computed by dividing the note duration by the number of beams of the tremolo.
So, if the note already has some beams...
Indeed, if you lengthen the note stem as you should to have something decent to show, the thing starts having sense.
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General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles
N.B. The score very often notates the chords and the arpeggi with about half notes stem down and the other half stem up.
Has this some significance, beside aestetics?  :)
I don't think so, even if the score is a "didactical" one.
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General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles
2/4, of course, given the upper staff bar duration.
Maybe it could be better putting the rest in (vertical) line with the initial chord.
N.B. the original score, although being in print (1974), is not very well engraved...
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General Discussion / Layering troubles
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:1|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:#-2,0,3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-11,-7,-4
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
My best solution:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:5|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:#-2,0,3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-11,-7,-4
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Spacer|Width:150
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:-3.5|Wide:Y
|Spacer|Width:75
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
Any better idea?
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General Discussion / Re: Lyric positioning after a new boundary
Yes, Mike, that's what I do usually, but here it doesn't work.
Why? Because I'm an idiot!

The first line is written "strophe, chorus" and is fine.
All the others are written as "strophe, chorus, strophe", with the chorus replaced by underscores to avoid repeating it.
As you can easily understand, in all the lines except the first the second strophe never appears because is after the end of the staff.  :-[
So, guess what happens if I add the first line chorus after the second strophe of the last line!

Forgive me and forget it all. Sorry.   ::)
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User Tools / Re: Repeated Measures
Some notes:
  • if the tool is in the standard directory (usually your suggested path) the calling line can be simply
    Code: [Select · Download]
    wscript Scripts\repMeas.js <PROMPT:Tot Times?=#>
  • Boxmark2 as User 1 can seamlessly be replaced by one of the most recent  ;)  fonts created by Lawrie: MusikDingsSans.ttf or MusikDingsSerif.ttf
  • I usually use the same size of Staff Metrics for User 1 in the whole score. Warren, you can add your scaling factor 1.375 to that specific text only.
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User Tools / Re: Examine clipboard
N.B. of course you can always change the return code of the tool.
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The following return codes are recognized:
  • 0 Text in STDOUT is processed and anything found in STDERR is presented as a warning to the user
  • 1 Anything found in STDERR is shown to the user, and nothing else is done
  • 99 Anything found in STDOUT is shown to the user, and nothing else is done
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User Tools / Re: Examine clipboard
It's already visible in the stdin tab of the tool result dialog.
There is also the stdout tab.
The only problem is that, as far as I know, it's visible only if there is something in the stderr.
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General Discussion / Re: Percusion
You can look at File -> Open sample -> Drumref.nwc for the standard MIDI percussions normally available with channel 10 in NWC.
For the percussion in the scores, the standard should be the one attached here.
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General Discussion / Re: Repeated measures
You should include/specify which font is used as "User 1".
I suppose, using one of the "MusicDings*" font, the char could be "\".
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Object Plugins / Re: MarkupPage.rg
Rick the magician was a genius, but cryptic and always very scarce of explications.
After a full immersion in the meanders of the NWC plugins with the help of Mike, I felt brave enough to delve into his opera.
I just did for MarkupPage.rg more or less (much "less" than "more"  :D ) what Harald did for Markup.rg.
Here is what I was able to discover. Part of it are Rick's words.
This is a plugin for putting text on a page that is unrelated to the staves: titles, dedications, lyricists, copyrights, catalog numbers and the like.
Up to 9 markups can be defined from each object.
Setting the Class to StaffSig allows the markup to be repeated for subsequent pages.

Markup commands are prefixed by '/'. Supported commands are:
 /a - angle
 /c - character[.repeat]
 /d - duplicate or transparent
 /f - font[.styleDigit[size]]
 /h - home[ x]
 /p - page[offset]
 /r - return[y]
 /x - add to horizontal position
 /y - set vertical position

/a is in degrees (°) counterclockwise
/h, /r, /x and /y are in points (1/72 inch, 0.353 mm), positive is upward
/c is the (unicode) char decimal code
/p prints the page number (adding the optional [offset] starting page number)
/d repeats the following item the specified number of times; if the number is negative then it doesn't print but updates the x position as if it had written
/r resets the x position and increments the y position by the amount specified

The vertical positions are relative to the plugin marker position.
All that is not a command is written verbatim.
Items are displayed using Staff Italic (3) unless preceeded by /f

In /f the integer part of the number is the font number in NWC's scheme of things:
 1 = Staff symbols
 2 = Staff small symbols
 3 = Staff italic
 4 = Staff bold
 5 = Staff lyric
 6 = Page title text
 7 = Page text
 8 = Page small text
 9 = User1
10 = User2
11 = User3
12 = User4
13 = User5
14 = User6

If the font number is negative (e.g. /f-9) then the whiteout mode is used: everything is drawn in the background color.

In /f the first digit after the decimal point (styleDigit) is the font style:
0 = as specified in the font number
1 = normal
2 = bold
3 = italic
4 = bold italic
5 = as specified in the font number but as contour
6 = contour normal
7 = contour bold
8 = contour italic
9 = contour bold italic

Additional digits specify the fraction of the size (always < 1), e.g., /f9.03 means 30% of the size, /f9.015 means 15%.

"Menu options" ("Opts:") is a list of options, one for each possible markup: 1 Type, 2 Type, …, 9 Type, 1 Page, 2 Page, …, 9 Page

Options set to their default values appear empty.
Empty values at the end of the list are removed.

"Type" and "Page" for each item can also be set by the Context Menu. (Right click on the object in the score, then select "object")

"Type" list
 1 - 'Top left' (default)
 2 - 'Top center'
 3 - 'Top right',
 4 - 'Bottom left'
 5 - 'Bottom center'
 6 - 'Bottom right'
 7 - 'Staff left'
 8 - 'Staff center'
 9 - 'Staff right'

"Page" list
 1 - 'All' (default)
 2 - 'Odd'
 3 - 'Odd (except 1)'
 4 - 'Even'

Items of the same "Type" need to be located with /y
How many (so far) undocumented features!
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"It is easier to write a new code than to understand an old one." - John von Neumann