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52
General Discussion / What does it mean?
What do those crosses mean?
Usually they stands for indetermined pitch sound, in special mode percussive or spoken/shouted.
In this case they seem pitched.
The instruments are trumpet and sax. For sax it could maybe indicate slapped, but for trumpet?

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User Tools / Re: Swing triplets
Having had to deal with a lot of "swings", too many couplets still needed manual adjustment  O:) , so I <sligtly modified>  ;D  my tool.
I expanded the number of different patterns automatically tripletized.
You can find the new version in the first message of this thread.

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing...  :P
55
General Discussion / Re: :-)
The staccato is only present in the nwctxt, and it stays there even saving the score with a different name.
I was unaware of it until I peeked the code.
56
General Discussion / :-)
I converted an old NWC score to nwctxt to ease a general change and I discovered this:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
|Rest|Dur:16th,Staccato
Sic!  :))
58
General Discussion / Re: The impossible triplet
Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
Well, all I did for Flurmy's red notes was to change the stem direction of one or the other, and then I was able to apply the triplet.
Yes, once I focused the problem that was the solution I applied.

Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
This is probably because there is an "Opts" for the main voice, and there is no "Opts2" for the second voice (which has Pos2 and Dur2)
!!  8)
59
General Discussion / Re: The impossible triplet
No, it's not impossible,  it depends on the input sequence.
This works:
Code: [Select · Download]
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-8
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-4^,-2^|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-8^
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4,-2
This doesn't:
Code: [Select · Download]
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4,-2
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-4^,-2^|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-8^
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-8
Not easy to detect it in the editor.
60
General Discussion / The impossible triplet
Were we talking about bugs?
In this snippet I need to tripletize the notes in red. No way.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Chord|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-4^,-2^
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-8^|Opts:Stem=Down,Tie=Downward
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4,-2|Color:1
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-4^,-2^|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-8^|Color:1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-8
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
63
General Discussion / Re: Una corde
A friend of mine asked me the same question last week.
The only solution we found, excluding using special soundfonts, is to simply lower the volume.
Unsatisfactory, I know...

P.S. "Una corda", not "una corde". ("corde" is plural while "una" means "one")
65
General Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas 2023
Christmas?
Today 21 °C, a sunny day, a nice warm Sirocco, a stroll in T-shirt...
Happy Easter!  :)

Little rain, no snow on the mountains.
This Summer we'll have to drink wine...  ;)
67
General Discussion / Re: Transparent bars
I found my old notes.
Quote
It is recommended that you use a transparent bar line after the boundary change gap width. This will allow:
  • a system change immediately after the gap width
  • the bar line to orphan at the end of a system and not be visible
The system connection will no longer be shown when the gap width is at the end of the staff.
The transparent bar line has position, whereas an invisible one doesn't.
So far so good, but I don't understand the example i recorded:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Key|Signature:F#,C#|Tonic:D
|Bar|Style:Transparent
|Tempo|Tempo:120|Text:"Allegro"|Pos:7|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:0
|Bar|Style:Double
|Key|Signature:F#,C#|Tonic:D
|Tempo|Tempo:120|Text:"Allegro"|Pos:7|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:0
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
68
General Discussion / Re: Filtered properties
Those info are stored in the registry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\NoteWorthy Software\NoteWorthy Composer 2\Queue\Find.
I don't think you manually mangled the registry. Did you computer have a crash?
69
General Discussion / Transparent bars
Lawrie,
since you wrote here that you use transparent bars, can you please remember me what are they useful for?
I though I got it but I discovered I forgot all. Probably I never grasped it completely.
71
User Tools / Re: Audit Bar Lines tool
Maybe an option to change the color of the misplaced bar lines?
Probably not particularly visible, but easily searchable.
72
User Tools / Re: Swing triplets
Yes, Lawrie, I do that too sometimes when it's most convenient.

For example, with "In the mood" for full orchestra it was much simpler to do that way.
Too many staves to copy and modify, in special mode without my tool.  :D
73
User Tools / Re: Swing triplets
If the notation has 1/8+1/8 then a simple periodic tempo variance can work.
For exmple:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Tempo|Tempo:165|Pos:10
|TimeSig|Signature:AllaBreve
|Tempo|Base:Eighth Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Tempo|Base:Quarter Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Tempo|Base:Eighth Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Tempo|Base:Quarter Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Tempo|Base:Eighth Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Tempo|Base:Quarter Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Tempo|Base:Eighth Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Tempo|Base:Quarter Dotted|Tempo:165|Pos:10|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
But it doesn't work for 1/8 dotted+1/16 and with the real triplets.
I think the object approach, if feasible, could have the same drawback.
74
User Tools / Swing triplets
When notating jazz scores it's customary to simplify the tedious continuous swing couplets (triplets composed by 1/4+1/8) by notating them as 1/8+1/8 or 1/8 dotted+1/16. The problem is when NWC plays them; it plays exactly as written.
The solution is to create a hidden staff with the real triplets for the sound.
Manually changing what usually are a lot of couplets is very tedious. Work for a tool!
This tool does indeed right that.

Copy the jazz-standard notated staff to another staff to be hidden.
Apply the tool to the latter and at least 98% of the work is done.

The tool can work also on a clip.
In that case be aware that it assumes the clip starts at a crotchet boundary; that is: at a beat start.
75
General Discussion / Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
I think Rick said "it's a bit louder than FF" many, many years ago, so it should not be too recent a change.
N.B. Of course, we are discussing about "goat's wool", as we say in Italy. That is, "negligible things"!
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General Discussion / Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
If you do not assign a dynamic it will default to fff which defaults to a velocity of 127
Soo, defaults are Volume 127, Velocity also 127* ('cos fff)
Default Volume = 127, no doubt.
Default velocty = 110, not 127. Try to believe.
And no, I didn't edit the itree.

Quote from: Warren Porter –
The default dynamic levels are at the top of this page: dynamics.html
Warren, unless I completely misunderstood, we are talking here of the default velocity when no explicit velocity is specified.

So: this
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:1|CaretIndex:10|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:"<Name>"|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:"Copyright © 2023 <Name>"|Copyright2:"All Rights Reserved"
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:mf|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:f|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:ff|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:fff|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
sounds as:
Quote
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 110
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 75
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 92
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 108
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 127
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
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General Discussion / Re: how to make it like this
The sequence is ABDE ABFG ACH.
A possible solution is to make special ending 1 = BDE, special ending 2 = BFG and special ending 3 = CH.
An alternative I'd prefer is to simply expand the score repeating (copying) the nine bars of the A section.

Let me say the original score could have been written in a clearer way!
82
General Discussion / Re: single note on the songbook
I don't fully understood your question but I try to answer.
You should be able to do what you want manually. See the attached file.
Regarding the user tool "Parts", sorry but I never used it.
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General Discussion / Re: Elementary question - complicated answer?
Quote from: hmmueller –
I try to avoid such "omni-channel" settings as much as possible.
Omni mode? Vade retro, Satana!   :P

A little bit of data adding to the good explications of Harald and Lawrie.

The MIDI standard does not specify which instrument corresponds to every specific patch number; it was left to the single instrument and you had to check every instrument's MIDI patch table.
NWC can help with this if you create an itree list file (*..nwcitree) for each instrument, so you can use mnemonic names instead of pure numbers.
As you can guess, it was a big mess with almost zero portability.

Some years later there was an agreement and the GM (General MIDI) was born.
This standard specifies the basic correspondence between the patch number and the instrument sound for the bank 0 - 0 (the default) so a violin sounds a violin every time a patch #40 is selected (at least for bank 0 - 0). Good.
It also stated that the channel 10 must correspond to the drum kit. (Some old instruments used channel 16.)
In the early instruments you had to set them in "GM mode"; now, since a long time, this is the default.
So NWC defaults to "General Midi.nwcitree" and this is what you see when you click "predefined instruments", unless, of course you select a different .nwcitree. That possibility is still present.

But, as Harald wrote, sometimes you need a sound not present in the General MIDI, so Roland created the GS "standard" and Yamaha created the XG "standard" exploiting the banks different from 0 - 0.
Usually there is a logic behind that. For example: patch number #49 bank 0: "String Ensemble 1"; bank 3: 'Stereo Slow Strings"; bank 8: "Legato Strings"; bank 40: "Warm Strings"; bank 64: "70's Strings"; bank 65: "String Ensemble 3" etc. I think you got the idea.
"Standards"? Ehm...

Many years later arrived the GM2 that "borrowed" the bank 1 from GS and tried to include also something from XG.
It also clearly states that, if your instrument hasn't any specific patch for that bank, then the bank 0 must be used, instead of being silent as often happened before...  >:(
And this is where we are now.

A last note: the patches of the channel 10 (drum kit) don't change the single "intrument" but change the whole drum kit.
  0:Standard Kit
  1:Standard Kit 2
  4:Hit Kit
  7:Room Kit { SC-88 }
  8:Room Kit { SC-55 }
16:Rock (Power) Kit
24:Electronic Kit
25:Analog Kit { TR-909 }
26:Dance Kit
32:Jazz Kit
40:Brush Kit
48:Symphony (Orchestra) Kit
49:Ethnic Kit
50:Kick & Snare Kit
56:Sound Effects (SFX) Kit
57:Rhythm FX Kit
80:Live! Standard Kit
81:Live! Funk Kit
99:Chaos Standard Drum Kit
127:MT-32 Drum Kit
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General Discussion / Re: *.nwc file security
Oh, yes. But you're quite modern!  :))
Do you remember when the floppy disk were... well, floppy?
Each package of floppy disks contained a bag with the labels to stick on them and some adesive strips to put on the dent in the right part of the floppy to make it read.only, The exact same function of the sliding tab of the "plastic floppies" you described.

And do you remember when you could "double" the capacity of a "single side floppy" by cutting a dent in the left part of the floppy and then inserting it upside down in the drive?  :D (Typical of the Apple IIe 5"-1/3 floppies and previous computers with 8" floppies)

Gosh! Things of the previous millennium!!!!!  :))
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General Discussion / Re: *.nwc file security
Absolutely useless for the matter in discussion.
This "protection", present since the DOS, was inserted for different purposes.
You can remove it without any problem.
The PDF files have the possibility to make them "read only", but even that...
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Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.1)
Wow! Thank you, Mike.

For the records: in the score I attached I simply switched the soundfont to "tremolo strings".  :D
That's why I wasn't concerned with the sound.
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Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.0e)
Reviving an old question with a slightly different request: how can I use two TremoloSingle objects on the same split chord?
The best a could get (except, of course, using layering) is cheating using text and MusicDingSans as "User 1" font as in the second bar but, of course, no sound.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:"o"|Font:User1|Pos:-10.5|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:1|CaretIndex:1|CaretPos:-1
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:"<Name>"|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:"Copyright © 2023 <Name>"|Copyright2:"All Rights Reserved"
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"MusikDingsSans"|Size:16|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:1
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|User|TremoloSingle.ms|Pos:-5.5|Which:bottom
|User|TremoloSingle.ms|Pos:-5|Beams:3
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Muted|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-3
|User|TremoloSingle.ms|Pos:0|Beams:3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Muted
|Bar
|Text|Text:"o"|Font:User1|Scale:70|Pos:-10.5|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|User|TremoloSingle.ms|Pos:0
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Muted|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-3
|User|TremoloSingle.ms|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Muted
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Re: The contents of the Meta Data (File info)
Quote from: hmmueller –
(a) Save every file as nwctxt file - this, you would have to do manually
Nope. Use a batch file like this (adding path if needed):
Code: [Select · Download]
for %%a in (*.nwc) do "nwc2.exe" -convert "%%a" "%%a.nwctxt"

Quote from: hmmueller –
Then, someone (you?) can write a simple program to replace all those Copyrights (I would write an AWK script; but any programming language will do).
They are text files. Many serious editors (e.g. Notepad++) can do "replace in files" of text lines.
95
User Tools / ChordPlay Transposer
Since adp_TransposeChords.php is old and transposes only chords entered as text items, I created this tool to transpose the chords entered as ChordPlay objects.

Please remember that normally the ChordPlay objects are automatically transposed when you transpose the staff, so no special operations are needed.
With this tool you can transpose only the ChordPlay objects as requested here.

You can specify on the command line the number of semitones by which to transpose che chords.
If no parameter is specified, the number of semitones will be asked each time the tool is run.

N.B. this tool explicitly ignores the autor of the ChordPlay plugin, e.g. .nw, .lp, .fl, ... and handles all its possibile "flavours".
96
Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
I'll try to sort it out.   :-[

Lawrie's version implements my changes, not the other way round. Sorry, Lawrie!
But I made some more additions on a newer but unpublished version building on Lawrie's work, and this was what fooled me.

Unpublished because basically I added more different ways to write chords (in Europe, or at least in Italy, we often use chords written quite differently from what was expected by the original plugin).
Furthermore, I added the conversion text-> chordplay also for "solfeggio style" chord names, but it seems there is little request for "solfeggio style" tools.

I didn't change the plugin name because, as I wrote, my updates should be perfectly backward compatible.
Unless, of course, you enjoyed the bugs that are corrected!  :D
97
Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
But I am most familiar with object coding; tools were never my strong point.
Tools are much simpler than objects; you're not tied at all to the NWC APIs.
But the tool adp_TransposeChords.php is in php and, beside never having really grasped php, I'm now... well, rusty!  :D

Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
It would be nice if there were a way to merge most, if not all, of the changes back to the parent object.  But that is an aside.
Mine, beside being backward-compatible, includes all the Lawrie's additions!
We are already there.
98
Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
I seemed to remember there was a user tool to transpose chords (and only chords).
I was right: adp_TransposeChords.php.
But it's old and only transposes chords entered as text items.
Maybe the best thing would be to update it than to perform all the steps you listed.