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152
General Discussion / Re: Page view
I'm puzzled.
In "print preview" I have just two views. The first one is "full page", the second is ""screen wide" and, in the upper left, there is the caption "page x, zoom y/2" with y either 1 or 2, no matter which way I change the zoom.
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General Discussion / Re: Thinking Through Flow
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
E.G. for each time through that an instrument is silent you have a hidden special ending for that time through that has a hidden ppp dynamic, and each time the instrument plays you have another hidden special ending that has the correct dynamic (still hidden).
A hidden ppp? Well, it's very soft but still audible.
Why not a multipoint controller with expression = 0 (and later, when you want to hear it, 127)?
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Object Plugins / Re: Tremolo.ms (2.1)
Got it!
Quote from: hmmueller –
when I mark both of them and then run the Tremolo plugin's user tool
I'm not running "Tremolo.ms.nwcuser.lua". (As Harald wrote, it works fine.)
I go to .automatic, then "Make tremolo.ms"!
This runs "Make Tremolo.ms.lua" that's old and bugged.

Probably it's obsolete, but it remained in my tool list.
I suppose the same for "Make TremoloSingle.ms.lua", "Convert Text to ChordPlay.nw.lua" and "Convert Text to ChordPlay.nw.lua".
In practice, almost all that went into "AutoUserTools".
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Object Plugins / Re: Tremolo.ms (2.1)
Of course!
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,Muted,HideRest|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:0
|User|Tremolo.ms|Pos:0|TripletPlayback:Y
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,Muted,HideRest|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
162
Object Plugins / Dot ignored
Re-reading this thread seems that the problem of the dotted notes was solved.
Apparently, somewhere somehow the patch has been lost because the problem is still present.
Mike, could you please take a look?
Thanks
166
Tips & Tricks / Re: How do I use Drumref in samples
Quote from: David Palmquist –
I've never played around with soundfonts or patches.
Impossible! Are you saying that you always used only the piano sound (patch 0)?  :D

Every time you select an instrument you select a patch.
A drum kit is more elaborated: every note is a different instrument of a single drum kit (patch).

To use a drum kit of your choice, you have to select channel 10 and choose the patch number, exactly as you can do with the instrument in the other channels. The problem here is that you don't have an "instrument tree" to choose from using "predefined instruments".

Many kits (but not all) share the same instrument on the same key. For example, the bass drum key is a bass drum in standard kit, room kit, rock kit, etc. and the crash cymbal key is a crash cymbal in standard kit, room kit, rock kit, etc.
Of course, very often the same type of instrument has different sounds in the different kits (that's the reason why they exist).

About the soundfonts, there has been a lot of discussion in this newsgroup. In short we can say that a soundfont is a collection of patches.
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Tips & Tricks / Re: How do I use Drumref in samples
Quote from: David Palmquist –
Many years ago, I think it was recommended Channel 10 be set to acoustic grand piano to get the right drum sounds.
The "right" drum sound? Maybe you mean the standard one!  ;)

Here is the selection that could be available changing the patch of channel 10 (as usual, all depends on the soundfont):
  • 00 = Standard Kit           
  • 01 = Standard Kit 2         
  • 04 = Hit Kit                
  • 07 = Room Kit { SC-88 }     
  • 08 = Room Kit { SC-55 }     
  • 16 = Rock (Power) Kit       
  • 24 = Electronic Kit         
  • 25 = Analog Kit { TR-909 }  
  • 26 = Dance Kit              
  • 32 = Jazz Kit               
  • 40 = Brush Kit              
  • 48 = Symphony (Orchestra) Kit
  • 49 = Ethnic Kit             
  • 50 = Kick & Snare Kit       
  • 56 = Sound Effects (SFX) Kit
  • 57 = Rhythm FX Kit          
  • 80 = Live! Standard Kit     
  • 81 = Live! Funk Kit         
  • 99 = Chaos Standard Drum Kit
  • 127 = MT-32 Drum Kit         
168
General Discussion / Re: strange notes (for me)
Dicesi "tremolo".
Meno male per te che ci sono gli opportuni plugin per farlo, se no sarebbe stato una seccatura.
Prova ad utilizzarli. Se poi non ci riesci fammi sapere.
Ciao
172
General Discussion / "A" 200
Warning: shameless ad below! ;)

Just to show you what can be done with my plugin, I attach here a file in memoriam of the great John Lord.
Be aware that, as it's often the case, the exact result depends on synth and soundfont.
173
Object Plugins / MIDIcontroller
My first plugin, and done with a very rusty Lua. Anyway, surprisingly ;-), here is it and seems doing what I needed.

This plugin allows access to the MIDI controllers (MPC) NWC doesn't handle natively. I still wonder why.
The controller values are always assumed as absolute values (no sweep allowed).

Some controllers are simply on/off switch like the well known "pedal up"/"pedal down". Indeed, "pedal" is itself exactly a controller, simply handled natively by NWC.
The switch controllers available are 'Portamento', 'Sostenuto', 'Soft', 'Legato' and 'Hold'. In these cases any value below 64 means off, above or equal 64 means on.

Since I found annoying this plugin text taking a lot of space, I added a parameter equivalent to the well known "preserve width" that's unchecked by default.
I'd have found useful to have also the text hidden by default, but I was unable to do so.

N.B. I took for myself the NWC plugin ID "fl". I hope none has anything to object. But since it's not "official" I can't attach the bare file, I had to zip it.
174
Object Plugins / Re: Glissando.ms (2.2)
Alas, there are many cases in which we must reinvent the wheel.
Many routines are for sure already implemented in the NWC "core" but they are not exposed in the API, so we have no choice than to redo them from scratch in the plugins/user tools. Very error prone!
This seems one of those cases.

There are a lot of possibilities to consider so the burden is excessive but, still keeping the workaround implemented by Mike, maybe we could try to manage automatically the most simple and common ones. I'm thinking about limiting to clef and octave change (instrument transpose).
My feeling, however, is that even this is too much work for too little.
Probably the Mike's workaround is the best we can do.

Thanks, Mike.
175
General Discussion / Re: vertical line
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
Not that NWC implements all 3 identically as far as I can tell.
Probably you missed an "e": "Note that NWC implements all 3 identically as far as I can tell."
Basically there are two groups of tempo variances.
The first is "Breath mark", "Caesura" and "Fermata", in which you can specify a delay.
The second is composed of all the remaining items and, as far as I know, they are all equivalent for NWC.

Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
Where you place these marks depends on how you will present the chart.  If each part will be individually printed then you'll need to put them on every staff, BUT if the parts will always be printed together on one page then you have more options.
There are always the options "Top staff only" and "Single staff prints".
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Object Plugins / Re: Glissando.ms (2.2)
No, it's not restricted to pitchbend.
Here follows a simple example.

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:C|Tonic:C
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:-4|Opts:Muted
|User|Glissando.ms|Pos:5|Class:Span|Playback:Chromatic
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:5
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Thanks, Opagust. Of course I was already aware of that page.
181
General Discussion / Re: Libreria ritmi batteria.
Sì, ci sono librerie di ritmi MIDI e io ne ho varie, raccolte qua e là negli anni.
Le trovi qui.
Poi, ad esempio, ci sono gli "stili" per le tastiere arranger, ad es. Yamaha, ma quelli sono già più complicati da estrarre.
Ciao
182
Avant-garde / Re: Rehearsal marks
Many years have passed since I abandoned Boxmarks2 for the compatible but much better MusikDings* by Lawrie...
185
General Discussion / Re: changing the key
Indeed, playing the "natural" scale on both the alto and the sopranino recorder you get a scale of F while, with the soprano and tenor, you get a scale of C, but it's a player's duty to "transpose" because the whole family is written in concert pitch.

Talking of oddities: the harp octaves are counted from the treble to the bass and each octave starts with an F...
Go figure!  ::)
186
General Discussion / Re: changing the key
Well, my idea about it is that those instruments have a "natural" way to play a scale, and this is called a C scale.
In a sense is the same as saying that the piano is an instrument in C because, using only the white keys, you get a C scale.

Of course, that's not carved in stone.
For example the harps, that are tuned in Eb (lever) or Cb (pedal) but are notated in C.
I'm also thinking to the baroque recorder. In that flute the fourth degree (let's call it F) has a fork fingering in the right hand, but the basic idea is still valid.

187
General Discussion / Re: Key signature
Two more quirks.

If you need a temporary accidental in a bar, today it is customary to just put it only on the first altered note. The others of that same bar are automatically altered.
In my old score, every altered note of the same bar has its accidental.

If you put a flat on a note you lower it a semitone.
Since, the score being in D, C and F are implicitly sharp, if you need a natural C od F you put a flat on it.
simple, isn't it?  ???
188
General Discussion / Re: Key signature
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
It is NOT a treble clef,  ... the G is on the bottom line so it's a French Violin clef.
I completely overlooked that the G clef is a third below the usual for the good reason that I never heard about a "French Violin clef"!
Since it is an ancient hand engraved score, I supposed it was a mistyping (sort of). But ALL the staves with the G clef have that anomaly!

I guessed the real key should be D because of the two sharps, but I couldn't understand why.

Thank you very much, Lawrie.
Even today I learned something new...
192
General Discussion / Re: windows 11
I think this will work only if the nwc files were saved as "uncompressed NWC file".
"Uncompressed NWC file" is in practice the same as .nwctxt (and standard .nwc is simply .nwctxt compressed).
193
General Discussion / Re: So, what?
Well, I know, "alla breve" must be carefully considered, depending on the musical period it refers.
So it may be very useful an extra indication.
But in my case it is not "alla breve"... I don't know.

P.S. I didin't know "Es kommt ein Schiff, geladen". How many versions on youtube!
194
General Discussion / Re: So, what?
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
Caveat: I'm not formally trained in music theory, what I know I've "soaked up through my skin", so the following is what I've learned that way and may not accurately equate to "the rules".
So do I.  :D
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
They almost always use context to figure it out.
... as usual.  ;)
I hoped in a more formal explication.

https://steinberg.help/dorico/v2/en/dorico/topics/notation_reference/notation_reference_tempo_equations_c.html
Well, this is a very clear case: switching tempo from 6/8 to 3/4 (hemiola) can need the explanation.
But switching from 3/4 to 2/4 and saying that 1/4 = 1/4 is a pleonasm!

Ok, I'll use the good old method: I'll listen to some execution!  ;)

Thanks, mates.
195
General Discussion / Re: So, what?
Yes, Lawrie, indeed it starts with a 3/4, but then switches to 2/4, then again to 3/2 (mistyping: I meant 3/4), then there is the 2/4 of the second image...
I don't understand why to change the tempo. Or should I do in the previous changes?

P.S. It's Strawinski, so keeping the 1/4 = 168 is not easy at all!
196
General Discussion / So, what?
Help!
A score starts with a metronome of a 1/4 = 168, as you can see in figure 1.
After a while I get the info 1/4 = 1/4 (see figure 2).
Beside being an identity (but music can be odd, sometimes), what is it there for?
197
General Discussion / Re: stems horizontally split
Just for fun: "agreement" in Italian is "accordo"... the same word as for "chord", hence the Google mistranslation.

May years ago, in the first try for automatic translation back and forth to Russian, the sentence "the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak" came back as "the wiskey is fine but the steak is soft."  :))
198
General Discussion / Re: Snake oil? ;-)
A friend of mine, guitarist, had a Fender, then switched to a Gibson, then settled back to a Stratocaster.
His conclusion: "switching instrument can't make me any better... I should switch the musician!"  :(
199
General Discussion / Re: Solfège note name tool
I meant the path including the filename and with real blanks instead of the HTML blanks "%20".
Like this:
Quote
Wscript "C:\Program Files (x86)\Noteworthy Software\NoteWorthy Composer 2\Scripts\ognotenames.js" <PROMPT:Act upon:=|All_Staffs|Visible_Staffs|Active_Staff|Help> <PROMPT:NoteNames:=|A_B_C_...|do_re_mi...> <PROMPT:Insert as:=|Lyrics|Text|>
200
General Discussion / Snake oil? ;-)
I'm reading a book on organic chemistry and I met this cameo:
Quote
Trombone oil is used to lubricate trombone slides.
It's basically a light machine oil, but it's also a wonderful metaphor.
Trombone oil is very specialized.
Musicians who need it will pay a high price for the best quality of trombone oil.
And the total world market is a few gallons a year. (Actually, that's a made-up number, but this is a metaphor, so never mind.)
The point is that, no matter how excellent a trombone oil maker you are, no matter how fine your trombone oil is or how much you can charge for it, you're never going to make a really serious amount of money selling it because the total market is just too small.
I find this to be an excellent analogy that can be applied to many situations, and now you can use it too.