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Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat

I'm working with a song which begins with a two-measure master repeat, followed by the verses, of which there are two.  Without fail, when playing, it highlights the lyrics of the second verse.  At the end of the piece is a Da Capo, which returns playback to the beginning where the first two measures of the master repeat play just ONCE, without repetition, then plays thru to the end for the second verse, which is highlighted a second time.  As a workaround, I tried adding a third verse, making the first verse empty and moving the two verses down to the 2nd and 3rd position, thinking that if it was going to highlight the 2nd verse instead of the first, then it would in reality be highlighting the correct one.  Nope!  It highlighted the lyrics of the last verse (the true 2nd verse) on both passes.  Back to square.

So.... I replaced the master repeat with a local repeat (2) and verse 1 is highlighted.  Now when playback hits the Da Capo at the end, it returns to the beginning and plays the two measure local repeat twice, as desired, BUT on this second pass, the second verse is NOT highlighted... the first verse is highlighted for the second time.  The playback is correct, with the exception of the wrong verse being lit on the second pass.

Is this a common quirk, and if so, has anyone found a workaround solution?

Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat

Reply #1 –
It would be hard to tell for sure without seeing the actual score, but I am betting that it has to do with either using or not using special bar lines at certain spots in your score. There are people here who are experts at getting repeats and flow control to do their bidding. I am not one of those people unfortunately. :)

Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat

Reply #2 –
It's notorious that NWC after the D.C. or D.S. does not applies the master repeats.
Well, that's one of the two "standards" and has its reasons.  :)

What happens with the lyrics looks instead as a bug.
I'm not one of the experts mentioned by Mike but I can suggest a workaround as follows.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
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Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat

Reply #3 –
Thanks for the ideas.  Turns out I probably misinterpreted the composer's intent.  The D.C. at end was likely intended to return to the beginning of the verses, NOT including the 2-measure repeat ad-lib at the start.  Otherwise, he might have done what he indicated in a companion piece where he used a Dal Segno at end, pointing back to the Segno which was in the ad-lib repeat section at the start.

Anyway, since there were just two verses after the master repeat ad-lib section, I placed them inside a second master repeat section with invisible bars, substituting the D.C. flow direction with a "D.C." text label..

For the companion piece, where the 2-measure master repeat ad-lib WAS intended to play again before verse 2, placing an invisible open bar after the master repeat reset the pointer and the first verse was highlighted as it should have been.  I placed an invisible local repeat open at the beginning, and close (2) at the end.  Instead of using D.S. flow direction, I substituted a text label.  I was afraid that causing the opening master repeat to play that second time preceding verse 2 would reset the pointer again, causing the first verse to be highlighted again.  I was pleasantly surprised when it highlighted verse 2 as it should have.

After getting my head wrapped around it, it makes sense.   Now if I can just remember for future use in case it comes up again.....

Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat

Reply #4 –
I tried to follow your reasoning by I was lost.
Could you please attach an example?

By the way: your statement puzzles me a lot.
Quote from: Alan_J –
The D.C. at end was likely intended to return to the beginning of the verses, NOT including the 2-measure repeat ad-lib at the start.
Indeed, D.C. (in music  :D ) means "da capo" that is verbatim for "from the beginning". I'd then expect to resume the whole score, including the first two measures.
If you want to resume from a different point instead of the beginning then you must use the "dal segno" that means, verbatim, "from the mark".

Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat

Reply #5 –
Quote from: Flurmy –
I tried to follow your reasoning by I was lost.
Could you please attach an example?

By the way: your statement puzzles me a lot.
Quote from: Alan_J –
The D.C. at end was likely intended to return to the beginning of the verses, NOT including the 2-measure repeat ad-lib at the start.
Indeed, D.C. (in music  :D ) means "da capo" that is verbatim for "from the beginning". I'd then expect to resume the whole score, including the first two measures.
If you want to resume from a different point instead of the beginning then you must use the "dal segno" that means, verbatim, "from the mark".

You are exactly right about their meaning, however, the composer used the mark/sign at the very beginning of the second piece, which included the 2-measure master repeat ad-lib, instead of D.C., which would have been more sensible.  Other than the flow directions, the set-up was exactly the same as the first piece.  Since he used the D.S. to specifically include the ad-lib, I rationalized that in his first piece, his definition of "the beginning" must have been different than in the second.

I guess I'm inferring from the second piece, that the composer used the wrong symbols to signal his intent.... or the typesetter made a mistake in his manuscript interpretation.  Either way, it'll print out exactly like the original and the end-user can make up their own mind how to interpret it.
 

Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat

Reply #6 –
Quote from: Alan_J –
I guess I'm inferring from the second piece, that the composer used the wrong symbols to signal his intent.... or the typesetter made a mistake in his manuscript interpretation.
I have no difficulty to assume something like this.  ;)
Quote from: Alan_J –
Either way, it'll print out exactly like the original and the end-user can make up their own mind how to interpret it.
Easy way out!  :))