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Messages - Flurmy

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General Discussion / Re: Scripts and programs
Yes, Lawrie, as far as I know you're correct.
Just a detail: the original pascal was a semi-compiled language. The compiler used to generate the so-called "P-code", later interpreted during runtime.
Then arrived Borland Turbo Pascal...  ;)
Look here.
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General Discussion / Scripts and programs
Quite often, the terms script and scripting are used as synonyms for program and programming, respectively.
The inventor of the Perl programming language, Larry Wall, tried to explain the difference between script and program in a humorous way.
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Suppose you went back to Ada Lovelace and asked her the difference between a script and a program.
She’d probably look at you funny, then say something like: «Well, a script is what you give the actors, but a program is what you give the audience».
That Ada was one sharp lady…
Since her time, we seem to have gotten a bit more confused about what we mean when we say scripting.
It confuses even me, and I’m supposed to be one of the experts.
:D
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User Tools / Re: Percussion splitter
A program update.
The changes are too many to be listed, hence version 2.0, but in a nutshell I can resume them as: much, much less need for manual adjust of the resulting staves.
The usage instruction are unchanged.
You can find the new code in the first message of this thread.
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General Discussion / Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat
Quote from: Alan_J –
I guess I'm inferring from the second piece, that the composer used the wrong symbols to signal his intent.... or the typesetter made a mistake in his manuscript interpretation.
I have no difficulty to assume something like this.  ;)
Quote from: Alan_J –
Either way, it'll print out exactly like the original and the end-user can make up their own mind how to interpret it.
Easy way out!  :))
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General Discussion / Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat
I tried to follow your reasoning by I was lost.
Could you please attach an example?

By the way: your statement puzzles me a lot.
Quote from: Alan_J –
The D.C. at end was likely intended to return to the beginning of the verses, NOT including the 2-measure repeat ad-lib at the start.
Indeed, D.C. (in music  :D ) means "da capo" that is verbatim for "from the beginning". I'd then expect to resume the whole score, including the first two measures.
If you want to resume from a different point instead of the beginning then you must use the "dal segno" that means, verbatim, "from the mark".
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General Discussion / Re: Missing missing octave accidentals
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
I think it's because they're in octaves and thus could be correct.
Could be correct? Why?
I don't think so.
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
(notice that the 4th note in the 1st bar is erroneously affected by the accidental on the preceding note - this is a long time quirk of NWC):
Yes, I know that, but, let me say, it's terrible for reading at first sight.
A Vivaldi manuscript I recently notated had those orrors... (not a mistyping :) )
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General Discussion / Re: Wrong verse highlighted after master repeat
It's notorious that NWC after the D.C. or D.S. does not applies the master repeats.
Well, that's one of the two "standards" and has its reasons.  :)

What happens with the lyrics looks instead as a bug.
I'm not one of the experts mentioned by Mike but I can suggest a workaround as follows.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:1|CaretIndex:21|CaretPos:-1
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:Plain|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"MusikDingsSans"|Size:18|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:2.00|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:16|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Lyrics|Placement:Bottom|Align:Standard Rules|Offset:0
|Lyric1|Text:"\n"
|Lyric2|Text:"two two two two\ntwo two two two\n"
|Lyric3|Text:"three three three three\nthree three three three\n"
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:C|Tonic:C
|Tempo|Tempo:220|Pos:10
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Dynamic|Style:f|Pos:-8|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:0|Opts:Lyric=Never
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:0|Opts:Lyric=Never
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:0|Opts:Lyric=Never
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:0|Opts:Lyric=Never
|Bar|Style:LocalRepeatClose|Repeat:2|Visibility:Never
|Ending|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Flow|Style:DaCapo|Pos:10
|Bar|Style:SectionClose|SysBreak:Y
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
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General Discussion / Re: Memory lost :-)
Touché!
Thank you very much, Harald.
Now I understand why I could not find it. I was looking for the wrong words.
Ah, my bad memory....
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General Discussion / Memory lost :-)
Long, long ago I met a score for piano in which the autor, obviously a romantic  ;), wrote "to be played at full strength" and, a few bars later, "stronger".
I don't remember even if it was written in italian ("con tutta la forza", "ancora più forte") or in German.
Maybe it was Schumann or Schubert, but I'm not sure at all. Surely it is a famous one.
Can someone help my memory?  :)
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General Discussion / Re: Caractères accentués
Ton fichier est codifié comme UTF8 et NWC l'importe correctement.
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Je-n'ai-pas-peur-de-dire-que-j't'ai-tra-hi-Par-pure-pa-resse,-par-pure-mé-lan-co-lie-Qu'en-tre-toi-et-le-diable,-j'ai-choi-si-le-plus-con-for-table-Mais-tout-ce-là-n'est-pas-pour-quoi-j'me-sens-cou-pable-mon-cher-a-mi
etc. etc.
Probablement tu a utilisé une vieille version del NWC. Je crois qu'il faut au moin la version 2.75.
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General Discussion / Re: Caractères accentués
Es tu sûr que la faute soit de NWC?
Très probablement le texte n'est pas unicode et il est écrit avec une codepage spécifique.
J'ai vu souvent le même problème aussi avec l'Italien.
Si tu veux tu peux me passer le fichier; je te saurai ainsi dire quelque chose plus précise.
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Object Plugins / Re: User object for lyric-dependent ties?
To begin with: I completely overlooked those functions. Thank you for having put them in evidence.
But I doubt those functions can be of any help.
SeenFirstEnding simply memorizes if NWC met an Ending after a MasterRepeatOpen while Ending1Context, as the name suggest, contains the play context at the moment NWC met the Ending 1.
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General Discussion / Re: Eighth Special Ending
I don't know if this can be of help for you, but you can fake the master repeats.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:"  "|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:0|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar|Style:SectionOpen
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Text|Text:"  "|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:0|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar|Style:SectionClose
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Bar
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:-3|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:-1|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:1|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:3|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:-3.5|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:-2|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:0|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:2|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"   "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:0|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar
|Spacer|Width:300
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Spacer|Width:300
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:-3|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:-1|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:1|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:3|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:-3.5|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:-2|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:0|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:" "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:2|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"   "|Font:StaffSymbols|Scale:90|Pos:0|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Re: Trave in beamed group
Why? Because it is coded so. It's one of the limitations of NWC.
And, yes, you need to use the layering.

(È uno dei limiti di NWC. Per farlo si deve usare il layering.)
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General Discussion / Re: Quantisation
Sûrement, si le quantification a été excessive, la chose n'est pas possible. 
Dans l'autre cas il pourrait être faisable, mais par un programme extérieur (user tool) qui, je crois, au moment n'a jamais été créé.

For sure, if the quantization has been too strong, there's no way.
In the other case it could be possible, but with an external tool  (user tool) that, I think, so far has never been made.
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General Discussion / Re: Missing icons
Yes, right that.
And the problem is present only on my computer with XP.
That's odd. I didn't change anything... or so I think.
Even emptying the cache the problem doesn't go away.
I must investigate...

Thanks, Lawrie.
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General Discussion / Re: Tremolo with octaves
Quote from: lawrroc –
PS 2: I exclude errors in the score
Sorry, Lorenzo, but I disagree.
The correct way to notate that is (as Mike said) as follows:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-9,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Spacer|Width:125
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-9,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,Muted|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-9|Color:1
|Spacer|Width:200
|User|Tremolo.ms|Pos:-2
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,Muted|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2|Color:1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-9,-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Re: Tremolo with octaves
Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
A two-note tremolo that has 8th notes for each note would have a total duration of 1/8 note in the measure, and with two additional beams, it would play as 32nd notes. Adding up the other beats, there would be a total of 7 beats in the measure.
Perhaps it is a typo in the score, and it was meant to be quarter note tremolos? In that case it would add up to 4 beats.
I agree.
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Object Plugins / Re: Glissando.ms (2.8)
There is also another addition to the plugin: if the first note is a grace note, the sweep duration is assumed 1/32 and is stolen from the target note (as is customary in NWC). See the attached example.
This happens often in jazz and kletzmer music.  :)
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General Discussion / Re: Wav and MP3 files from NWC.
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"The Back Stage area has been upgraded to include full posting capabilities for all licensed users of NWC2 that have upgraded their forum membership."
Topic: NWC 2.8 Beta 1
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General Discussion / Re: What is 2 Ped.
What an ass!  :-[
The MIDI standard has a specific switch controller for the "una corda" pedal, exactly like the sustain pedal.
It is called "soft" and NWC can control it via MIDIcontroller.fl, a plugin by yours truly.  :o
When I say my memory is bad...  :(
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General Discussion / Re: What is 2 Ped.
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
However, patch 64 is supposed to be Soprano Sax, which doesn't really seem consistent with a muted violin to me...
Argggh. The usual conundrum.
Is the first patch patch 0 or patch 1?
If zero-based (computer style) then 64 is SynthBrass 2, else (human style) it's Soprano Sax.
(Please note that NWC sometimes uses the former, sometimes the latter. Aaaaarg!)
Anyway, in both cases, as Lawrie said, it doesn't really seem consistent with a muted violin!
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General Discussion / Re: What is 2 Ped.
Quote from: Warren Porter –
I am transcribing a work by a French composer and the bass staff of the piano starts with 2 Ped. Besides Pedal Down, and Pedal Release, what else needs to be done?
The second pedal is the "una corda" and the thing is not part of the General Midi patches.
The most that can be done is to let the piano play softer.

Quote from: Warren Porter –
Also, what is a good midi channel for a muted violin?
Midi channel? Any, except 10!
Here you mean Midi patch.

Quote from: Warren Porter –
64 is the only one that sounds close.
SynthBrass for a muted violin? Unexpected.
Be aware that things can sound quite differently with a different soundfont (or midi instrument).
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Object Plugins / ChordPlay.fl
I made other additions and bug fixes to ChordPlay.nw beside the old ones from me, Mike and Lawrie.
I was able to maintain backward compatibility with the original plugin but, of course, I can not update it, so, after discussing the topic with Mike and having requested the opinion of Eric without success, I decided to publish it with a different (mine) ID.

In a nutshell, these are the changes:
  • Backward compatible with ChordPlay.nw
  • Extended the allowed chord list
  • Allowed commonly used SwingChord etc. glyphs (courtesy of Lawrie)
  • Allowed the use of the solfeggio style note/chord
  • Allowed also the 'N.C.' "chord"
  • Automatically converted also the solfeggio style note/chord
  • Added the option to avoid the use of unicode chars U=266F and U=266D
  • Considered staff transposition when playing chords (courtesy of Mike)
  • Corrected a bug that crashed the plugin if MusikChordSerif is not available
  • Corrected a bug in doFontChange for the font size
  • Corrected a bug in the internal user tool (courtesy of Lawrie)
  • Corrected a bug in the parsing of the part after '/'
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General Discussion / Re: Finale’s finale
Don't forget a detail: NWC is virtually dead.  :(  Probably is for that that NWC was not mentioned.
Luckily, as the old school programs, the licence of NWC doesn't expire.  :)
Now, more often than not, to use a program you must have an active "infernet"  ;)  connection and you have to keep paying just to continue using it as-is. This made me discarding lots and lots of programs.