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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
you could specifically check for these problems during conversion and either delete or replace them with a flag - maybe "BLANK"?
In the xml he following chars are reserved and must be "escaped", that is:
"  replaced with  "
'   replaced with  '
<  replaced with  &lt;
>  replaced with &gt;
& replaced with  &amp;
(whatever similitude to html is...  ;) )
This is NOT my idea. This is the standard!
https://www.w3.org/TR/xml11/#NT-Char
- 2.4 Character Data and Markup
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
pencil-button.png is missing in the .zip.
There's no way to include it permanently in the .exe?
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
More generally, the following chars must be "escaped" in xml:
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"   &quot;
'   &apos;
<   &lt;
>   &gt;
&   &amp;
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
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The ampersand character (&) and the left angle bracket (<) MUST NOT appear in their literal form, except when used as markup delimiters, or within a comment, a processing instruction, or a CDATA section. If they are needed elsewhere, they MUST be escaped using either numeric character references or the strings "&amp;" and "&lt;" respectively.
The right angle bracket (>) may be represented using the string "&gt;", and MUST, for compatibility, be escaped using either "&gt;" or a character reference when it appears in the string "]]>" in content, when that string is not marking the end of a CDATA section.
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Here it comes.
Since you're at it, take care at where the "repeat" bars appear.
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Well, for sure I'm not a musicxml specialist, but I'd look at how musescore manages the flow.
It seems it has no problem with them.
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
I don't know if there is official documentation on the format, but I think it would be theoretically possible to create compressed NWC files in a converter.
I see no point in reinventing the wheel.
Do you want such a converter? Here it comes:
Code: [Select · Download]
nwc2.exe -convert "%~dpn1.nwctxt" "%~dpn1.nwc"
Save it in a file and use the .bat extension.  ;)

For historical information, once upon a time there was a stand-alone file called "nwc-conv.exe" whose latest incarnation was version 2.5. Then it has been obsoleted and replaced by a simple command line parameter (see above).
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
None allowed me to select "save as type" other than .nwctxt, BUT the offered filename ended in .musicxml and saved as such.

However, when I tried to open the saved musicxml test files the ones from the two more recent versions would NOT import into Musescore while the older one did just fine.  Something is broken...
You made me wonder, so I investigated.
Well, in my case the file ended in "-nwctxt.musicxml.nwctxt" (maybe a bit verbose?  :) )
I peeked inside and it's a .musicxml.
And, in my case, once renamed, it opened perfectly in musescore.

N.B. Long long ago I had to explain to my daughter that "converting" from .doc to .txt, or from .jpg to .png is not simply a matter of changing the extension.  ;)
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Lawrie, you missed the point.
I started with a .nwctxt file and, after the conversion,  my only option is to save it as  .nwctxt!   :o
I think I'm able to code myself such a converter.  :))
I need a file .musicxml or .mxl.
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
There is more.
I clicked "Select NWC txt file", loaded my file, selected the options, got "Conversion completed", clicked "Save as" and the only option is to save it... as .nwctxt!  :))
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Code: [Select · Download]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "nwc2xml.py", line 1717, in convert
  File "nwc2xml.py", line 1497, in create_xml
  File "nwc2xml.py", line 1461, in create_part
  File "nwc2xml.py", line 1285, in process_object_user
  File "nwc2xml.py", line 1228, in process_user_object_line_span
ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '12.5'

The culprit is:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
|User|LineSpan.nw|Pos:-9|Class:Span|Span:12.5

N.B. After that, no way to go ahead with another file of whatever; olny exit and restart..
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General Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas
The last time I used the Baudot was with a telex machine with punched paper tape, just before they became obsolete. About 1985.  :D
I still have a virgin tape.  :o
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General Discussion / Re: "Text" window size
Eeeh? Hai problemi di vista? (Che poi la riga "text" ha le stesse dimensioni delle altre.  :) )
Se invece ti riferisci al risultato dell'operazione, cioè al testo visualizzato, allora basta aumentare "font size", come dice la parola stessa... in foresto.  :D

(Sorry for the non Italian speaking people, but, while answering, I'm also kidding Lorenzo...)
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
It seems the "NWC User" isn't recognised anymore.
Furthermore, "Sorry, no new users possible".
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Object Plugins / Re: PageTxtMaestro.nw
Quote from: David Palmquist –
This instruction doesn't make it clear whether you can have just one PageTxtMaestro on a staff to serve more than one PgTxt object, or , if you have more than one PgTxt object on that staff, you need more than one PageTxtMaestro objects.
I've always put only one PageTxtMaestro object only, even with many PgTxt objects.
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Add an object of type PageTxtMaestro.nw into the front of your top staff.
This object does all of the printing work, so you need to add it first.
Note that your top staff must contain at least one note before PageTxtMaestro can do its job.
If I put a PageTxtMaestro.nw on multiple staves is because they can become the top staff when printing parts.
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General Discussion / Re: Windows 11
I can understand David fears because the 2.8 installer requires a previous 2.75a (or, better, 275a.2) already installed.
If David did all the updating steps for a long time there is the risk to have to redo all those steps... back to the need of the CD.
Not sure at all, but quite afraid!
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
I converted an xml file, so I got  the setup window.
After having filled the data in the "NWC title page section" and in "parts/staves" having set "Lyric lines" = 0, I clicked "ok".
Conversion done and file saved, I got:
  • The title remained the one proposed by the xml file.
  • Author and lyricist are ok.
  • Copyrigths are empty. My changes ignored or remained those proposed by the xml file?
  • "Lyric lines" = 1. Change ignored.
Not a big problem, but then you could skip the whole "setup window" and set them in NWC.  :D

If,, for any reason, you want to abort the conversion project at any stage, the only way to restart is to close and reopen NWCconvertor.
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Sorry for being such a p.i.t.a. but, once again, the text is unreadable.
The loggings are saying:
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Analysing...
Input file: F:/Tmp/elpueblo.mxl
Unzipping...
Unzipping META-INF/container.xml
Extracted: META-INF/container.xml
Unzipping score.xml
Extracted: score.xml
Waiting for setup...
Converting...
Conversion completed.
Output saved in:
F:/Tmp/elpueblo-mxl.nwctxt
but...
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General Discussion / Re: Old files don't open
There is no reason you shouldn't open old 1.75 files in NWC 2.75a.

With "open" you mean dounble clicking on a .nwc file? Then the problem is in the file association in the windows shell.
Check by using, in NWC, file -> Open.
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General Discussion / What's a plus?
In current violin music, pizzicato with the left hand is indicated by a + above the note (see: Alban Berg - Violin Concerto).
Ok.

But in ancient music (and not for violin)? For example, Telemann for flute (see figure).
(My best guess: accent.)

And the vertical dashes? For example, Telemann for flute (see figure).
(My best guess: staccato.)
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General Discussion / Re: REINSTALL nwc after computer crash
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
Umm, I was referring to re-purchasing NWC, not the need for a reader...  Guess I should have been more explicit.
Sorry, Lawrie. Of course I was kidding.

But, since your message went right after David's
Quote from: David Palmquist –
An optical drive will connect to your laptop by USB and allow you to read your Noteworthy installation disc.   They aren't very expensive - I found refurbished or "open box" units online for less than $30CDN.
you can forgive me having misunderstood.  :)
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General Discussion / Re: Beats in a bar
Layering works but, if only for this, it's an overkill.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab,Db,Gb,Cb|Tonic:G
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4,-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:2
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2,1
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-5^,-3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:2
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-5,-1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-5,-2
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Hint: read attentively what Mike wrote.

N.B. NWC doesn't care, but the stem direction of the 2/4 chord was wrong.
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Object Plugins / Re: PageTxtMaestro.nw
I often do similar things and I never had any problem.
Hint: do you change the "page style" name for each different PageText?
I usually have them named "subtitle", "page number", "instrument" etc.
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General Discussion / Fonts.ini
Fonts.ini is very good for having the fonts specific to NWC not cluttering the system font list.
Recently (...today) I had to add a font to NWC, so I added it manually to fonts.ini.
Does it exist in NWC an "official" (read: user friendly) procedure to add fonts to Fonts.ini?
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General Discussion / Re: Nederlandstalige terminologie
Slur = Legatoboog
Tie = Overbinding
Beam = Waardestreep

N.B. No, I'm not fluent in Dutch at all. I can barely understand something.
In these cases I use a trick.
I look at Wikipedia in a language I know well for the exact meaning I'm looking for, then I ask for the correspondent page in the other languages.  ;)
As you can see, there is no correspondent Dutch page for Stem.  :(
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
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04/07/2024: 2.0.01
- including the pencil_icon in the zip file.
Still needed, but not included anymore.
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General Discussion / Two in the place for three
Converting that file I got the warning
"Tuplet 2/3 can't be processed.
  Staff: P1/staff-2/voice-3, measure: 38"
This can be solved using this trick:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|User|TupletMarks.fso|Pos:11.5|span:2|number:2
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End,XDotSpace=-1
|User|TupletMarks.fso|Pos:10.5|span:2|number:2
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End,XDotSpace=-1
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
This is just for information; I think implementing it in the program is too much hassle for too little.  O:)

By the way: the music notated in NWC is attached here. No need to say that it's a joke a friend of mine sent me!  :))
"Genetliaco" is a very erudite form of "birthday"...
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Quote from: Opagust –
I think you will have move the pedal marks manually at the right place in the staff where they belong
I think so too.

Quote from: Opagust –
Maybe you should change your colour theme?
Well, of course the problem is the colour theme, but it's not "mine", it's the Windows 10 standard dark theme.

Thank you for the fix.

P.S. That file was generated by Sibelius. Sibelius the software, of course! :-)
"[Musicians] talk of nothing but money and jobs. Give me businessmen every time. They really are interested in music and art." - Jean Sibelius