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General Discussion / Re: Digital way to key in the note
Last post by Flurmy -
Using Sharpeye and converting it to NWCTXT in many cases results in using invisible notes to try to "fix" the problems.
I hate to have objects I can't see in the editor. It's very easy to forget them and it's very annoying to have to remove them by hand.
I solved the problem with:
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OCR clean = php\php.exe scripts\adp_GlobalMod.php Note,Pos==0z DELETE
General Discussion / Re: effect of lowering notes
Last post by David Palmquist -

This is a "double-flat" accidental.  This is half a tone lower than an ordinary flat note.   You may sometimes see a double-sharp  too, a double-sharp uses an X instead of a sharp sign, and raises the note a half step above the sharp.  D double-sharp is the same as E natural.

Your key signature probably has at least 4 flats (Bb, Eb, Ab, Db), so every D and E is flat unless marked with an accidental. (Where there is an accidental, if there's another note of the same pitch following it in the same bar, it will have the same accidental, but it's unwritten.)

E double flat is the same as D.  The composer wants you to sing/play
Db, Eb, D natural, Db, D natural, Db
but that means writing four accidental signs in the bar.   It's less cluttered to just use the one double-flat.

There's probably a theory reason too, but I have not yet gained that knowledge.
General Discussion / Re: Changing the key signature
Last post by David Palmquist -
Frank, I think it would really help you to understand more music theory.  Go here:

It's in English, but you can use Google Translate to read it in Indonesian.  Go to and copy the dolmetsch URL into the left window.  In the right window,  use the down arrow to select Indonesian.  

You might like to ask your singer what her range is.  Your smartphone may have a tuner app that will name the notes when she sings them. I use an app called gStrings.

The transposition tool in NWC asks you how many semitones you want to transpose.  This may be easier to understand if you look at the piano keyboard and count the white AND black keys, so for instance to go from D major (it has 2 sharps) to Bb major (it has 2 flats), you count down 4 keys or up 8.  Think of a major scale as a staircase, where the first step is a whole step, the second is a whole, step, the third is only a half step, the fourth is another whole step, the fifth is a whole, the sixth is a whole step, and the seventh is a half step - so: tone, tone, semi-tone, tone, tone, tone. semitone.

General Discussion / Re: Digital way to key in the note
Last post by David Palmquist -
Lawrie mentioned Sharpeye and that it's expensive.  It is, but it's also good.  I use if frequently, particularly with big tasks (I recently extracted 28 instrumental parts from a 325 bar band score). 

Errors can be reduced if you scan at 600 dpi or higher, and of course, it helps if the original document is good.  If it's faded or uses archaic notation there may be more errors. 

Most Sharpeye errors are timing, where perhaps a triplet hasn't been recognized, or a rest is dropped or misread  Those can be found and fixed fairly easily in Sharpeye using a mouse.  Sharpeye flags those incorrect bars for you. 

Once you;ve opened the converted file in NWC, it's not hard to find and fix the remeaining errors.  Sometimes you'll see a 1-pixel red dot in a bar.  While it's hard to see, that's where you likely have to fix something.

Sometimes it's easier to make corrections within Sharpeye, other times, it's easiest to save the Sharpeye file with the errors, export the file to MusicXML and convert that to NWCTEXT, then fix the errors in NWC.

Bart  commented on the high music OCR error rate too.  I agree it's sometimes just easier to notate a single page of music note by note.

If your source music is a PDF file, some PDF programmes will allow the page(s) to be exported to black and white BMP or TIFF image files, which is what Sharpeye needs. 
General Discussion / effect of lowering notes
Last post by FrankSit -

I tried to lower the pitch to 2 semintones, however, 1 flat singn in the original signature, became 2 flat sign (see attached). My question is it normal simbol, I never see 2 flat sign in front of the note.


General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium Update
Last post by Richard Woodroffe -
The Scriptorium has been updated with works submitted by :

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General Discussion / Re: Changing the key signature
Last post by FrankSit -
Well re-reading your request, I should have said -6 since you wanted the pitch lowered. 

-6 would have bought the staff to 3 sharps but a lower pitch than your current 3 flats.
Since there are 12 semitones in an octave, 6 up would go higher whilst 6 down would go lower.
So if you have already made that change, doing another transpose of -12 will keep the key the same but lower the staff by an octave.

The relationship between one key and another can be said to be the number of semitones difference. (There is something called the circle of fifths - but not going into that deeply)

Consider the attached diagram (not mine - just Googled it for this answer !) . Each division is a semitone so you can count how many semitones you need to raise of lower the current key to get to the key you want.  In NoteWorthy, it is better to force accidentals before transposing.  Also, do not try to manually change the key signature since NoteWorthy will do it for you when you transpose.

In the transpose screen, there is also a tick box called "update staff play  back transposition". For a simple transposition, this box should not be set - It is mainly to do with transposing instruments  - not getting into that here!

So looking at the diagram, you can see that if you wanted to go from a key with 2 sharps in it to a key with 2 flats, the number of sections between those to keys is 8 going clockwise and 4 going anti-clockwise.

So in the NoteWorthy transpose screen, entering 8 semitones will raise the pitch to two flats (Key of Bb) whilst entering -4 will lower the pitch to the Bb key below the original 2 sharps (D key).

Hope this helps

Hi Rich,

What code is the third inner sign, for example 2 flats, the starting pitch is D, and what is Bm.

Thank you.