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General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles

Last post by Flurmy - 2024-03-15 12:58 pm

You got it: guitar.

General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles

Last post by Lawrie Pardy - 2024-03-15 12:37 pm

Hi Flurmy,
given the bar is 2/4, and it's effectively a single staff (single instrument?) then there is no need for a visible rest at all, IMHO.
Especially considering the lower three minims (half notes) are stem down, the same as the quavers (eighth notes), making them a single voice anyway.
Perhaps a guitar holding a chord with the quavers played over the ringing chord?

The other way to consider it might be that the quavers are the same notes as the top three minims so perhaps the top three minims should be quavers instead...

Your real clue will be how this is supposed to sound and notate accordingly, but I really don't think there's any need for a visible rest.

Incidentally, what instrument is it supposed to be?

General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles

Last post by Flurmy - 2024-03-15 10:13 am

2/4, of course, given the upper staff bar duration.
Maybe it could be better putting the rest in (vertical) line with the initial chord.
N.B. the original score, although being in print (1974), is not very well engraved...

General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles

Last post by Lawrie Pardy - 2024-03-14 09:39 pm

Hi Flurmy,
umm, I'm not completely sure what you're trying to end up with...

Is it a 2/4 bar, or a 5/8 bar? If 2/4, then I don't think the rest should be visible, but if a 5/8 bar then yes, the rest should be visible...

General Discussion / Layering troubles

Last post by Flurmy - 2024-03-14 04:03 pm

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]

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|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
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|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:#-2,0,3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-11,-7,-4
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|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
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|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

My best solution:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]

!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:5|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
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|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:#-2,0,3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-11,-7,-4
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
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|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
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|Spacer|Width:75
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|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

Any better idea?

General Discussion / Re: Very long half note

Last post by lawrroc - 2024-03-10 08:45 am

I thank all my friends for their usual great availability.
I'm doing some tests, I think I'll use instruments with a "soft" sound even if some are really hard to listen to, especially for a deaf person like me (I have two "bionic" ears, cochlear implants).
Happy Sunday.
Lorenzo

General Discussion / Re: Very long half note

Last post by hmmueller - 2024-03-09 08:43 am

In the attachment is my version of the tenors - simply written on two staves, with melismatic.nw.

And here is a Youtube of NWC's + Reaper's rendition of it, using Olympus Micro Choir in Kontakt Player (see attached PNG). First, I press F11 so that the two staves are shown as a single one; then I play it - I think one can hear all the notes of the voices quite distinctly.

H.M.

General Discussion / Re: Very long half note

Last post by Lawrie Pardy - 2024-03-09 02:48 am

Quote from: lawrroc – 2024-03-08 12:49 pm

<snip>
In the second measure (voice of the first tenors) the word "Girolemin" continues until the 7th measure and then repeats with "min" until the 11th.
They are two long melismas perfectly reproduced from a graphic point of view.

While I don't actually use it myself*, the "melismatic.nw" object should be able to do this for you, but you will need to have layered staves.

* I may need to change this...

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I would also like to be able to HEAR these two long notes both as a single voice (Shift+F5) and as a voice that "participates" in the harmony of the song.

Again, you will need layered staves.

General Discussion / Re: Forum maintenance needed?

Last post by Lawrie Pardy - 2024-03-09 02:39 am

Hi Flurmy,
yes, I pretty sure that's actually the way it's always been. My problem is clicking the blue icon and it takes me to a page that says there are no unread posts. In spite of the fact that I haven't been in the thread or board...

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General Discussion / Re: Very long half note

Last post by Warren Porter - 2024-03-08 10:07 pm

Quote from: lawrroc – 2024-03-08 12:49 pm

I ask if there is a User tool, a Manage objects or a Performance style to achieve this.

You might want to visit nwc-scriptorium.org and select Custom Dynamics. As Flurmy mentioned, you can't have a percussive instrument (like a piano) selected--only an instrument requiring effort for the full duration of your (tied) notes would work, such as a voice (oohs, ahas), wind, brass, or bowed strings.

If changing the instrument doesn't work by itself, try to install the above tool.

Good luck!