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General Discussion / I play the blues, oh yeah! :-)
I'm notating a score for cello and harp. The style is absolutely classical.
All of a sudden I met this passage with a strong blues feeling.
I triple checked and I'm positive this is what the autor wanted! :o
Incredible.
54
Object Plugins / Re: Tremolo.ms (2.1)
A special case to be managed:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|RestChord|Dur:Half|Opts:Stem=Up,Muted,HideRest|Dur2:Whole|Pos2:-7,-6,-3
|User|Tremolo.ms|Pos:0|TripletPlayback:Y|Variance:150
|RestChord|Dur:Half|Opts:Stem=Up,Muted,HideRest|Dur2:Whole|Pos2:-10
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
59
User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
May I ask for a different color combination?
Or, better, the program adapting its colors to the OS theme?

P.S. thank you for the drag & drop!
62
Object Plugins / Re: About Object Plugins
I just discovered that, if you call a plugin with a name starting with "fake", the embedded user tool will execute, but its result will be discarded.
More specifically, it seems that in that case the save() metod does nothing.
Go figure...
63
General Discussion / Re: Tie (or slur?) without the tied note.
Aaaaarg! No, please!
Doing things like these remove the "note off" event and you finish having many stuck notes. Try using a different isntrument and you'll see... hear.
Do not mute the grace notes.
If you want to hear the "let ring" effect indicated by the ties use the pedal.
66
General Discussion / Re: Violin harmonics
Well, let's forget the theory of the "bow of Bach" that supposedly allowed to play all the 4 strings at once.
Actually the notes are not really played together but, as you can easily hear, with a sort of arpeggio.

The 5 note chord is only a graphical artifact. The true notes are "only" 4.

If I got it right, the artificial harmonics are notated with a standard note where you put your regular finger on and with a diamond where you put the "harmonic" finger on.
In the case of the chord of my example, G and D are open strings, the 1st finger is on the 1st position of tha A string (Bb), the second finger (2) is on the E string on the G position and the fourth finger (4) touches lightly the string on the C position so as to create the harmonic.
If I didn't miscalculate, the latter generates a G two octaves higher... but I'm asking for confimation!
67
General Discussion / Violin harmonics
Violinists, help me!
Which notes should I expect to hear here?
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:"2"|Font:PageSmallText|Scale:80|Pos:5.5|Placement:BestFitForward
|Text|Text:"4"|Font:PageSmallText|Scale:80|Pos:8|Wide:Y
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-9,-5,b0,5,8X|Opts:Stem=Up
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Something like this?
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-9,-5,b0,19|Opts:Stem=Down
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
68
General Discussion / Re: Deleting tempo
I agree with Lawrie, but did you consider "Tools -> Options -> Editor -> My expression anchor size"
and "(ditto) -> Object anchor size"?
74
General Discussion / Re: Wav and MP3 files from NWC.
Quote from: Mike Shawaluk –
Be aware that you will need the NWC 2.8 beta version of the Viewer installed to use the "Play to" feature.
A-ha!
I seemed to remember that it was possible, but I was unable to discover how.
Indeed, in the last reinstall I installed the viewer 2.75a 2.
Probably I didn't keep the original installation file waiting for the official relase... :(
Where can I find version 2.8 beta?
75
General Discussion / Re: MIDI import bug
Got it!
If the last note is tenuto then you have note off immediately followed by "end of track".
When NWC imports the MIDI data, the last note is ignored.
76
General Discussion / MIDI import bug
I don't know exactly when and how, but when importing MIDI tracks in NWC the last note sometimes is missing.
I need to investigate...
78
General Discussion / Re: Just a weekend story
Gosh! But the official Java site, were I expected to find the real java platform, has only version 8, up to date, with no hint suggesting it's (very) old!  >:(
Looking at the Oracle page instead, I see "Java 22, Java 21, and Java 17 available now". No comment  :-X
And there is more: if you're looking just for JRE, like I do, in the Oracle page there is a button saying "JRE for consumers" and, guess what?, it sends you to the official java site with version 8...
Don't let me say what I'm thinking...

Quote from: hmmueller –
(I think it's the same with e.g. Windows versions: You can have "the newest version of Windows 10" - i.e., with all the latest fixes -; but you won't be automatically upgraded to e.g. Windows 11; and other "more complex" software products, like database systems, IDEs, etc.etc.)
Well, my daughter's computer surreptitiously switched from Win10 to Win11, with her great sorrow...  :(

Thank you very much, HM!
79
General Discussion / Re: Just a weekend story
Harald, how were you able to use audiveris?
I tried many times but, even if I have the last audiveris and the latest JRE (updated automatically a few minutes ago), the result is always:
Quote
java version "1.8.0_411"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_411-b09)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.411-b09, mixed mode, sharing)

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Audiveris has been compiled by a more recent version of the Java Runtime (class file version 61.0), this version of the Java Runtime only recognizes class file versions up to 52.0
What I'm doing wrong?
80
Object Plugins / Re: Trill.ms (2.4)
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Trill objects will be avoided when a trill note is tied.
and the trill at the first note will have the "note span" automatically set to the relevant number to show the extender line.
82
General Discussion / Re: View from DownUnder?
Thanks, Mike.
I missed that info. But you must admit the thing is funny!  ;)

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and give you a Vegemite sandwich
Thanks, but I already had supper.  I'll keep il for tomorrow breakfast (time zone adjusted).  :)
83
General Discussion / View from DownUnder?
Lawrie,
was NWC intended for you?  :)  :)  :)

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Text|Text:"Stem=Up"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:15.5
|RestChord|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:2
|Text|Text:"Stem=Down"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:-10
|RestChord|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Funny notation
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
Of course, you're right. Chordplay ignores the staff transposition.

Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
I regularly create charts for several transposing instruments that are identical except for the transpositions (C, Bb and Eb usually) but this is the first time I activated playback of the Chordplay objects on all staves.
Very often I make use of Chordplay but very rarely, if ever, used the play option, so I was unaware of this problem.

I have to investigate what can be done. I think it can be corrected.
Maybe Mike already knows a solution...
90
Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.1)
Once you're aware of it it's not absurd, but maybe changing it to take care of the already present beams would be more intuitive.
In this optic, there is also the problem of manually lengthen the note stem to make room for the tremolo.
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Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.1)
Mike, I don't know, otherwise I'd have discussed it with you.
I'll try looking at some books, unless someone else here already knows the answer.
Anyway, as I wrote, the thing is rational.
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Object Plugins / Re: TremoloSingle.ms (2.1)
I recently made the same discovery.
The fact is that the speed of the tremolo is computed by dividing the note duration by the number of beams of the tremolo.
So, if the note already has some beams...
Indeed, if you lengthen the note stem as you should to have something decent to show, the thing starts having sense.
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General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles
N.B. The score very often notates the chords and the arpeggi with about half notes stem down and the other half stem up.
Has this some significance, beside aestetics?  :)
I don't think so, even if the score is a "didactical" one.
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General Discussion / Re: Layering troubles
2/4, of course, given the upper staff bar duration.
Maybe it could be better putting the rest in (vertical) line with the initial chord.
N.B. the original score, although being in print (1974), is not very well engraved...
96
General Discussion / Layering troubles
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:1|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:#-2,0,3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-11,-7,-4
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
My best solution:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:5|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:#-2,0,3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-11,-7,-4
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Spacer|Width:150
|Text|Text:""|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:-3.5|Wide:Y
|Spacer|Width:75
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
Any better idea?
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General Discussion / Re: Lyric positioning after a new boundary
Yes, Mike, that's what I do usually, but here it doesn't work.
Why? Because I'm an idiot!

The first line is written "strophe, chorus" and is fine.
All the others are written as "strophe, chorus, strophe", with the chorus replaced by underscores to avoid repeating it.
As you can easily understand, in all the lines except the first the second strophe never appears because is after the end of the staff.  :-[
So, guess what happens if I add the first line chorus after the second strophe of the last line!

Forgive me and forget it all. Sorry.   ::)