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General Discussion / Re: long vertical glissando
Glissando? It's an arpeggio!
Use the "arpeggio" plugin, select "Extend arpeggio with marker" and then <ctrl><shift><up> or <down>.
To make it play correctly is another story...
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General Discussion / Re: Start-Cancel/Forbid collapsible section
I don't know in the full score, but in the example you attached... you can't hide everything, even if just for a while!

Nell'esempio che hai fornito hai "nascosto" tutti i pentagrammi.
Non puoi nascondere tutto, anche se solo per qualche battuta!
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General Discussion / Re: Back up question amid heartbreak
FWIW my Backup Files location appears to be OK, but the Auto Save/Recovery location is empty...
So it must be, normally, as far as I know.
Normally it's used only while you're editing.
It's a completely different story from the backup.

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The way I do parts is to hide the staves that aren't relevant to the part I want to save, then print that part to a PDF, I do NOT create a separate NWC file for each part.
So do I.
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General Discussion / Ethnomusicology
Last Sunday I spoke with an ethnomusicologist and multicultural choir director.
He said that, not so long ago, he had to go around, often far away, with a tape recorder seeking for popular songs.
Now he simply goes upstair and knoks on the door or rings the bell.  :)
A little problem: in his compound he met two families of Rumenians and both sung, in theory, the same Rumenian song... but the two version were completely different!  :D
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
Certo che si trova sul suo sito, te l'ha anche scritto in italiano!
"La versione 1.0.6.3 è disponibile su https://www.opagust.be/content/nwcconvertor"
E il file si trova dove c'è scritto "Download: nwcconvertor-1.0.6.3.zip"
Però per poterlo scaricare occorre fare il login, che penso tu abbia già fatto almeno una volta dato che hai la versione precedente.
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General Discussion / Re: reinstalling NWC
Scusa se la risposta suona banale ma io cercherei "NoteWorthy", no?
In alternativa, puoi cercare "Authenticity ID", però non vedo perché non dovrebbe funzionare la ricerca precedente.
A meno che tu non usi Outlook, la cui ricerca sembra fatta apposta per non trovare mai niente...  ;D
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General Discussion / Re: About nwctxt
.. or click "Select" and, in NWC, click "paste as new file" (or <shift><ctrl>V).
In case you haven't anything in the NWC editor, even a simple <ctrl>V can do the job.
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General Discussion / Re: Arrow between two staves
Yes, you're right, it's not ASCII, it's Unicode with code 8594.
I'll leave to Lawrie to explain how he inserted it. Searching it with the NWC "Char map..." requires a patience I haven't... ;)
I'd rather use the "Char map" program from Windows, selecting "Character set: Unicode", "Group by: subcategory Unicode", "Arrows".
A posteriori, you can always keep <alt> pressed and type in the numeric pad "08594"...
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General Discussion / Re: Placing bracket to embrace the 4 Staffs
Press M - like "mute": There you can select the staffs that should NOT be audible on the right.
Well, if I got it right the problem was to only higlight the notes on the soprano staff and not in the others, not in the sound.

Again if I got it right, a solution, hinted by Frank itself, could be to hide the non interesting staves.
Simply uncheck "File -> Page setup -> Contents -> Visible parts" for the parts you don't want to see.
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General Discussion / Re: MPC
Ciao Lorenzo,
I suppose you want the volume decreasing slowly, do you?

So, let's start by selecting "Volume" or, better, "Expression", in the MPC dialog.
Then select "Linear sweep".
Then, depending on how many subleties you want to insert, decide the granularity. Usually "Quarter" is ok.
Normally "Expression" is at 255, so let's start with 0 as time offset and 255 as controller value.
Then your target: let's suppose it's 4/4 later, so you must check "Setting 2", select 4 as time offset and,  for example, 127 as controller value.
That's it, but remember that, until you set a new value for "Expression", the last value remains in effect.

One last note: if the time span is short, using a sweep with a "step resolution" of 1 can overload the MIDI channel and, maybe worse, can not reach the target, so use a bigger step.
When the step is too big then you can hear the steps.
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General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium Update
There must be something wrong:
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Was sich liebt, neckt sich - Polka-française, Op. 399
Schubert, Franz (1797-1828), Austrian    Woodroffe, Richard
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
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Attribute value not quoted in 'measure number = "1"'
What's wrong?

Then the only option is "exit", and when I click "exit" it's kidding me asking "You didn't convert the input file, do you really want to exit?".  :)
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General Discussion / Re: Very long measure with speech
H.M., did you forget something (like the score)?  :D

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missing double beams - two layered staves would help
Possibly it's an overkill:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#,C#|Tonic:D
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:7|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Rest|Dur:Whole
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:8th|Pos2:#-5
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-5
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Re: windows 11
Well, remember that what you ask depends completely on NoteWorthy Software.
If the program is abandoned, as it clearly appears to be, I don't know what to do.
None of us users can do anything about it.
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
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WSH can run scripts written in VBScript and Jscript (java).
I'm ignorant, so I'm sorry for being picky, but my friends always told me javascript has almost nothing to do with java.
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General Discussion / Re: Duration parts in NwcTxt
Re: the last clip.
Of course you know that, after selecting the couple(s) you want, you can switch between one case and the other using <shift><up> and <shift><down>
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
I'm confused here by the time notation. Is Flurmy saying 23 minutes and 12 seconds, or 23 hours and 12 minutes? And are the rest of you saying 8 minutes or 8 seconds?
I generally would use : notation, but I realize that can be ambiguous also, unless you specify all 3 numbers.
It's ambiguous if you use the : notation with just two items.

In Italian we have "minuti primi" (from the Latin "pars minuta prima", meaning "first small part") e "minuti secondi" (Latin: "pars minuta secunda",  "second small part"). This is where the names "minuto" and "secondo" comes from.
So the "minuti primi" are indicated with <'>, and "minuti secondi" with <">.
Hence 23'12" means 23 primi and 12 secondi.
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
Lawrie,
I'm not blaming you of anything. I saw you changed the name.
I simply discovered that in this case it must be done for a sound reason.
N.B. Remember that I haven't an ID either.  :D

The primary reason I'm actively changing over is the inbuilt transposition facility.  While I can transpose text chords with the Transpose_Text_Chords user tool from Andrew Purdam, by using ChordPlay I have one less step to worry about.
A-ha. So do I, as I wrote.

When I write an arrangement or compose a piece I usually do everything in concert pitch, then transpose as required once it's all finished.  It is far, far easier to see chordal relationships if everything is in concert when writing.
Absolutely agreed!

It would be nice if, when the conversion tool is changing a text chord to a ChordPlay object, it could (perhaps optionally) automatically take into account the number of notes/chords on a staff until the next occurrence of a text chord to be converted and instruct ChordPlay to span that number of notes.  This might not be a perfect solution, but it would reduce labour a lot if one wanted to implement the playback feature.
As I wrote, I didn't use this feature, but your suggestion looks meaningful.

I think using Global_Mod to change from text object to user object would not be very successful, if it's even possible at all.  I haven't investigated that.
ChangeOjectType does not recognise a text entry as an object.  The code specifically confirms that the object type is "user".
Which means that I'm wrong. Sorry.
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
Lawrie,
meditating about the topic (I'm slow...), I see that with your changes to the defaults you broke the backward compatibility, hence it's far better to avoid using the same name for the tool. And this is a strong argument in favor of Mike's suggestion.,

Then I'm wondering why you want to switch using the ChordPlay plugin.
I'm using it because it automatically translates the chords written in plain letters to *Chords fonts, but it looks like your "text" entries are already in *Chords fonts.
Then I use it because (now), in case of need, I can easily switch between "Solfeggio" or not. But I think this is not of your interest.
Then I use it because it automatically transposes the chords at once with the notes. Do you care about it?
Then I never used it for that, but you can also make it actually play the chords. Do you?
... But then, of course, you're asolutely free to do whatever you prefer! :D

N.B. Possibly, since your text entries are already in *Chords fonts, a simple change of object type (via GlobalMod or perhaps Change object type) from text to chordplay could have fit the bill.
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
Looking in my files, I discovered this (that obviously I read and immediately forgot long ago):
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Allows custom key sequences, which allows it to be used to retime grace notes:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.74974,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,HideRest|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|User|ChordPlay.nw|Pos:6|Name:C|Span:3|Keys:0|Octave:5|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:16th|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|User|ChordPlay.nw|Pos:8|Name:E|Span:2|Keys:0|Octave:5|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:16th|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:-6^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First,Muted
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:-4^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End,Muted
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-6,-4,-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Not the simplest to use, but good to know!
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
Lawrie,
now that I'm a bit more awake I beg your pardon. Things are exactly as you described.
I completely forgot the AutoUserTools directory with its files, including Convert Text to ChordPlay.nw.lua.
Ad I always used it thinking it was .plugins->ChrodPlay.nw: Convert Text Chords.
Thank you for making things straight.
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
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OK, the one in the ".automatic" area is definitely a separate piece of code and works just fine
No, I haven't any "separate piece of code" and, as I wrote, the (one and only) "Convert text to ChordPlay.nw" tool appears in the ".automatic" area.
And, no, I didn't remove the ".plugins" group. I have it and well populated too.
But now I'm too sleepy to investigate more. Bed time here.
Maybe tomorrow.
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Object Plugins / Re: ChordPlay.nw
I confirmed that the object embedded user tool for text conversion does not seem to work.  Not in my modified version nor in NWC's version so this is not an error on my part.  This tool appears in the ".plugins" section of the user tool dialogue

There is also a user tool created in the ".automatic" area of the user tool dialogue which is stored as a lua file in the
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Noteworthy Software\NoteWorthy Composer 2\AutoUserTools"
section of the filesystem. 
I'm very puzzled.
I have only one entry in the user tools. It's called "Convert text to ChordPlay.nw" and is in the ".automatic" area.
But I must say that more than once I cleaned up the list.

The tool is in ChordPlay.nw (or newer  ;) ) in the short routine starting with "if nwcut then".
And, believe it or not, it worked for me a lot of times!

After a brief start putting  chords in the lyrics I switched to put the chords in text items.
Then ChordPlay arrived, so I converted many old scores (not yet all of them) to ChordPlay via that tool.
My only problem was the limited range of supported chord types...  :))
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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics to ChordPlay
Oh, yes. And for you to do too.
I think today any serious editor can use UTF8, so you can simply paste an Unicode char (or string) copied from e.g, char map and, pronto, you're done.
Of course, since the editor font presumably is not SwingChord or similar  :D, you'll see the correspondent "standard" char but that's all.
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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics to ChordPlay
it appears to me that it is not written to take into account all the possible additional characters in my *dings chord fonts.
At least not yet. I told you I'm lazy!  :)

You seem to have made additions to broaden its capabilities WRT: 4, 4/9, 5+, 7+, 7/9+, -, -7, -7/5+, -6 type chords.
I noticed changes to the code in the comment section near the top of the file, AND in the "chordKeySeqList" section (function?)
Yup!

Do you recall if these the only locations where you needed to make changes?  If so I can probably have a hack at it myself otherwise any pointers you can give would be most welcome.
If I understood what you want to do, then it should suffice.

It would be nice to be able to continue using the extended glyphs in the *chord fonts with ChordPlay without having a spurious <?> appear on chords that ChordPlay doesn't currently understand.

Of course, a good proportion of those glyphs appear in the range of chr$128 to chr$255 and might be problematic to match in the code as straight characters.
I think it's feasible. You're not limited to 127 and you should also be able to go above 255 by using the UTF8 codes.

my font suites seem to have become something of a de-facto standard
And I'm very thankful for it!
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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics to ChordPlay
don't know whether the "bug fixes" were ever sent to @NoteWorthy Online to be incorporated into the .nw version.
No, Mike, I haven't. I consider NWC abandoned. It's too long we don't have any update, nor even any news.

I have named ChordPlay.fl, although it appears that Flurmy never requested a plugin ID
I must admit I unofficially use the same ID for myself on my PC.  :)
I never requested a plugin ID because, basically, I don't know how to do, and then... see above.  :(

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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics to ChordPlay
Much less flexible, but for simple operations there is also "Filtered properties".
Can be used if all the texts must be moved at the same height.
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
It looks a lot like the installer is searching some files... in the disk of Opagust!  :D  (absolute paths)

Incidentally, I too have always had the "download" naming problem both for this and the previous program and have always had to copy the name before clicking it to download and then renaming.
So do I, but since I'm using an old version of Firefox and XP it looked normal.  ;D
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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics to ChordPlay
The font sizing is weird - much, much smaller than it should be - E.G. 32 in the chordplay object is about the same as 8 for normal text objects.
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-- Version 1.7
-- Flurmy 2021/08/23:
--   extended the allowed chord list
--   allowed the use of the solfeggio style note/chord
--   corrected a bug that crashed the plugin if MusikChordSerif is not available
--   corrected a bug in doFontChange for the font size
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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics to ChordPlay
Thanks, Lawrie.
Well, I've already accumulated a bit of experience with the user tools so I could have easily replied: "yes, I'm really sure the user tools can have full access to the whole file".  O:)

Possibly I'm also able to write such a tool myself but... I'm lazy  :D  and probably the number of scores to be "processed" is so small that the time to develop a tool is longer than to fix the scores by hand.  :)

There was some discussion long long ago about writing chords as lyrics. Probably this made me wrong about such a tool.
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General Discussion / Lyrics to ChordPlay
Long ago I notated some scores putting the chord names in the lyrics.
I'd like to convert them to the "new" ChordPlay objects.
I know that inside ChordPlay there is a tool to convert texts to ChordPlay.
Does exist a similar tool to convert from lyrics to ChordPlay? I seem to remember that someone wrote about that...
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User Tools / Re: NWCCONVERTOR
To begin with: thank you!  :)

Then, in case you want to process automatically also the .nwc files, you can ask NWC itself.
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-convert: This option can be used to convert a file from one format to another.
Usage: nwc2.exe -convert "[input-file]" "[output-file]"

Both files are required on the command line and the file extension determines the conversion.
Supported conversions include:
.nwc    -> .nwctxt, .mid, or .info
.nwctxt -> .nwc, .mid, or .info
Conversions to .mid support a "-0" option for type 0 files.