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How did you go with the PageTxt stuff I posted?
Are you able to see how the SubTitles work in it?

Also, as noted, the Alto and Tenor parts don't have the correct number of notes to allow for all the syllables to be correctly displayed separately.

As for the lyrics question I'm going to leave that as an exercise for the student.  I firmly believe you can sort the lyrics out.  There have been several similar lyric related solutions presented to you by others for different songs you've asked about that I'm sure you can apply the lessons learned from them with a little thought.

If you are using another language is the font still a standard Latin one, or are you using a different font that will need to be allowed for in the subtitle objects?

You must insert that break on each staff. Your successful example shows the same whole break also on the second staff.

As an observation, the lyrics are far easier to read and edit if you use the <Enter> key occasionally.  See the changes I made there too.

I fixed the repeats - as mentioned earlier, you cannot use local repeats with special endings so I've changed them to master repeats.

This is the song file, if you can not download it from the link I gave you.

Layering the first 3 staves is my assumption, but would I do it that way?

Layering the first 3 staves is my assumption, but would I do it that way?
That would all depend.  If I needed to be able to distribute the 4 parts individually then yes, layering is the right solution, BUT if all I needed was the 2 staff result I would not bother with layering unless there were constructs that were impossible without layering.

Wouldn't the first three staves be layered? Wouldn't that be the way you would do it to match the original, but with four parts?

Is there a reason you want to use 4 staves instead of 2?

HOWEVER, as you have used local repeats (with a 2 on the local repeat ending) then the flow would be:
1st time - play to the local repeat, then go back to the repeat start
2nd time - play to the local repeat and stop.
There won't be a 3rd time while there is a special ending after the local repeat.  If you remove the 3rd time special ending then after the 2nd time through it will continue on past the local repeat barline into bar 21.

Special endings have a mix of options.  For a first special ending that covers 2 or more bars:
Bar 1 - insert a special ending at the start of the bar that us marked as the "1st Ending" and has nothing else checked.
Bar 2 onwards - insert a special ending at the start of each bar and click the "Continue prior ending" button
Last bar of the special ending - insert a special ending at the start of the bar, click the "Continue prior ending" button AND then click the "Closed ending" checkbox.

2) There are 2 objects that can be used to create and play "guitar chords":
ChordPlay.nw - https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=9092.0
and
GuitarChord.ms - https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=9081.0

this line is part of the special ending and is turned on by checking the "Closed Ending" check box.

For details on the object's parameters, refer to the context-sensitive help on object's properties page.

PageTxtMaestro makes it easy to add a variety of page text elements to the printed page in two simple steps

replace the lyrics with "_ " for all but one verse.

I had to do some extra changes in order to correct an issue reported by FrankSit.

Quote from: FrankSit – 2023-06-12 01:39 am

Hi Gust,

I do not understand, I tried in the 2nd song, and the third, there is no more additional texts hiding the notes, but it still hides the normal note and it's staff.

The 2nd problem, it works only in the first staf, of we run again the 2nd staff it won't work, it shows erro message like the attached.

Thank you

Frank

Hi Frank,

Thanks for sending me your file.


But it shouldn't give you this error. It seems to me you ran the old version of the tool. Did you download the new version? Or perhaps you have 2 versions in different folders?

Quote from: FrankSit – 2023-06-12 01:39 am

Hi Gust,

I do not understand, I tried in the 2nd song, and the third, there is no more additional texts hiding the notes, but it still hides the normal note and it's staff.

The 2nd problem, it works only in the first staf, of we run again the 2nd staff it won't work, it shows erro message like the attached.

Thank you

Frank

Hi Frank,

Thanks for sending me your file.

- About the additional text: it seems to occur when there is a natural accidental. I investigated my code, but with base = '1=C', a natural accidental should be ignored.
And when I ran the tool myself on the same staff, there was no additional text.
- About the second problem: as I see on the attached image, you ran it on the second staff indeed, but that is the original first staff. The third staff should be the original second.
  If you had given your staves a label, you should see the same label in the first (number) staff and the second (originally first). The number staff is created from a copy of the original, with the notes being hidden. They are necessary to keep the numbers aligned with the original staff.
But it shouldn't give you this error. It seems to me you ran the old version of the tool. Did you download the new version? Or perhaps you have 2 versions in different folders?

Quote from: FrankSit – 2023-06-10 11:51 pm

It didn't work for me because the error code as in the attached. Is it because the file name is wrong?

Thank you
Frank

I think you have an older version of NWC, where text items such as the staff name are stored in a different way, which caused this error when trying to change it.

Quote from: FrankSit – 2023-06-10 12:24 am

TIf you choose 'Insert note numebers, you'll have to choose two other options. After running the tool, a new 'number staff' will be created. Choose 'Viewer mode' or 'Print review' to see how it will look like on your printed score.

It didn't work for me because the error code as in the attached. Is it because the file name is wrong?

Thank you
Frank

Number Notation Tool

It creates a separate staff with the number notation. The result doesn't look readable in edit mode so you have to switch to view mode or do a print preview to see the result.
You can choose 'Help' in the dialog box to see how it works and what it does. But if you have any problems or questions, don't hesitate to communicate them.

Quote from: FrankSit – 2023-06-06 02:07 am

Important point to note, if there are any RestChords in the selection they will not be changed and you will need to recreate them manually.

Thank you  Lawrie for your explanation. On other things, for practical reason, any note sign such as dynamic variance that we already put in the Soprano staff for example, we do not have to make it on the other stavas right?, It will automatically follow as the 1st staff?. Because sometimes when we layered it, it will not be even, so it looks not good for printing the song sheet.

Thank you.

Frank

Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Si Do = C D E F G A B C for a "C" major scale.

Hi Frank, they are the "relative minor" keys of the major keys in the outer ring.

E.G. the major key of D has 2 sharps (F and C).  The relative minor of D is Bm (B minor) and it also has the same 2 sharps (F and C).

The scales of D major and B minor both have the exact same notes in them (D, E, F#, G, A, B, C#); but the scales start on different notes.  D major starts on D (D, E, F#, G, A, B, C#), and Bm starts on B (B, C#, D, E, F#, G, A).

You will notice that the relative minors are always named 3 semitones lower than their relative major:
Maj -> rel. min.
A -> Gbm or F#m
Ab -> Fm
B -> G#m
Bb -> Gm
C -> Am
etc.

Quote from: FrankSit – 2023-04-24 11:51 pm

https://www.allaboutmusictheory.com/piano-keyboard/music-note-names/

Hi Lawrie,
Thanks for the above website I have read it and  I got more lesson from it.
Now my question is, since for us Indonesian, it is easier to learn song by singing the Number note (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1). Do you have any other way to key in the number into the lyrics other then manually key them in?.

Thank you.

Frank