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Did you also notice I changed the separate 1st and 2nd endings into a combined 1.2 ending?

Quote from: Lawrie Pardy – 2023-12-06 01:17 am

If you mean in the Title Bar of the window, it just means there's been changes since the last save.

On other things Lawrie, it could be something I forgot to key in, like the pedal release, is there any connection with the sound? when we play, maybe less volume. Or it is just for the pianist player.
Thank you

Frank

If you mean in the Title Bar of the window, it just means there's been changes since the last save.

If you mean in the Title Bar of the window, it just means there's been changes since the last save.

You had a couple of things not quite right - please compare the files to find them - if I just tell you it won't reinforce as well as if you find them yourself.

If it still doesn't work please post and I'll try to get to it in a timey fashion, if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

I'm pretty sure this will work, haven't had time to actually notate anything to test.

Let me say the original score could have been written in a clearer way!

Okay, there are two different issues here. 1) Using the special endings to create the correct appearance in the score. 2) Getting the score to play back correctly with those endings in place.

This section on the NWC website gives a short overview of special endings:

This section on the NWC website gives a short overview of special endings:

"Special ending"

but https://coria.nl may provide an easy alternative

You should be able to do what you want manually. See the attached file.

I may have misread your question. Were those layered staves with both singing the 2^nd half note?

Is there perhaps a different version that doesn't work?

All words (except the first one) appear as expected.

I think we'd need to see your NWC file to figure out why additional lyrics are not showing.

Frank, I think we'd need to see your NWC file to figure out why additional lyrics are not showing.

Frank, I think we'd need to see your NWC file to figure out why additional lyrics are not showing.

For a possible workaround, see item 1. in this recent posting of mine.

Sometimes it's easier to personalize a song that's already been transcribed rather than start from scratch. Even if the tune is different, you might not have to do much to the lyrics.

Quote from: Warren Porter – 2023-09-17 11:58 am

This site has thousands of hymns and all of them have nwc format. This is a link to your example: Cyber Hymnal

This site has thousands of hymns and all of them have nwc format. This is a link to your example: Cyber Hymnal

Simply apply a slur property to each intervening note.  You can even select all but the last one at once and press <;> to do it.

However, the question I really have is:
How are you planning to use this song?
Do you intend to leave it as 4 separate staves, or will you layer the top 3 as previously stated?

Quote from: FrankSit – 5 days ago

How did you go with the PageTxt stuff I posted?
Are you able to see how the SubTitles work in it?

Also, as noted, the Alto and Tenor parts don't have the correct number of notes to allow for all the syllables to be correctly displayed separately.

As for the lyrics question I'm going to leave that as an exercise for the student.  I firmly believe you can sort the lyrics out.  There have been several similar lyric related solutions presented to you by others for different songs you've asked about that I'm sure you can apply the lessons learned from them with a little thought.

If you are using another language is the font still a standard Latin one, or are you using a different font that will need to be allowed for in the subtitle objects?

You must insert that break on each staff. Your successful example shows the same whole break also on the second staff.

As an observation, the lyrics are far easier to read and edit if you use the <Enter> key occasionally.  See the changes I made there too.

I fixed the repeats - as mentioned earlier, you cannot use local repeats with special endings so I've changed them to master repeats.

This is the song file, if you can not download it from the link I gave you.

Layering the first 3 staves is my assumption, but would I do it that way?

Layering the first 3 staves is my assumption, but would I do it that way?
That would all depend.  If I needed to be able to distribute the 4 parts individually then yes, layering is the right solution, BUT if all I needed was the 2 staff result I would not bother with layering unless there were constructs that were impossible without layering.

Wouldn't the first three staves be layered? Wouldn't that be the way you would do it to match the original, but with four parts?

Is there a reason you want to use 4 staves instead of 2?

HOWEVER, as you have used local repeats (with a 2 on the local repeat ending) then the flow would be:
1st time - play to the local repeat, then go back to the repeat start
2nd time - play to the local repeat and stop.
There won't be a 3rd time while there is a special ending after the local repeat.  If you remove the 3rd time special ending then after the 2nd time through it will continue on past the local repeat barline into bar 21.

Special endings have a mix of options.  For a first special ending that covers 2 or more bars:
Bar 1 - insert a special ending at the start of the bar that us marked as the "1st Ending" and has nothing else checked.
Bar 2 onwards - insert a special ending at the start of each bar and click the "Continue prior ending" button
Last bar of the special ending - insert a special ending at the start of the bar, click the "Continue prior ending" button AND then click the "Closed ending" checkbox.