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False acciaccatura

There is a way to make this one:
 
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Muted
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Muted
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

looking as is, but sounding as

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Without using layering, I mean... (Too easy otherwise ;-)

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #1
Bit of a cheat - but that's what you were expecting wasn't it?

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Muted
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,VertOffset=2000|Dur2:4th|Pos2:2
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,StemLength=1,XNoteSpace=1,ArticulationsOnStem,VertOffset=-2000|Dur2:4th|Pos2:1z|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Rich.

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #2
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.5)
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)
|Note|Dur:4th,Grace|Pos:2^|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th,Grace|Pos:2^|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th,Grace|Pos:2^|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar|Style:LocalRepeatClose|Repeat:4
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
Registered user since 1996


Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #4
?? there hasn't been a need to use VertOffset=-2000 for a year or so.

I know, but I prefer it. I like it to look clean in the editor as well as in viewer mode. I'm not very keen on rest chords where the rest is a shady invisible.
Rich.

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #5
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but that's what you were expecting wasn't it?

Of course! :-)

Rich, your trick makes the first note sounding for too long and clashing with the following one.

Rick trick is perfect.

Thank you both.

N.B. Like Rick, I was surprised to see VertOffset=-2000 again.

Just in case someone needs it: I remembered that figure is called "appoggiatura".

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #6
I recently had 16th triplets with the violin rolling on three strings.  When one of these sets included a fingered A on the D string as well as an open A string, I layered the 2nd note with a stem in the other direction.  Not wanting to show the 3 more than once, I had to send one of the hidden rests to the boondocks.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"4"|Font:PageText|Pos:-8|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"3"|Font:PageText|Pos:13|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Text|Text:"4"|Font:PageText|Pos:13|Placement:AtNextNote
|Rest|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Visibility:Never
|Text|Text:"O"|Font:PageText|Pos:13|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End,Staccato|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Staccato,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Rest|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Opts:VertOffset=-1|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
And on the layered staff:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Rest|Dur:Half,Dotted|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Opts:Stem=Down,VertOffset=-180|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down
|Rest|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Opts:Stem=Down,VertOffset=-180|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down
|Rest|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Since 1998

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #7
Rick trick is perfect.
Not much of a trick. Grace notes steal a 32nd, so if you want to steal an 8th, you need 4 of them.

I had to send one of the hidden rests to the boondocks.
A bit off-topic. I'd just do this:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|RestChord|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End,Staccato|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Staccato,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|RestChord|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Registered user since 1996

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #8
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Grace notes steal a 32nd, so if you want to steal an 8th, you need 4 of them.

Yes, I figured it out and, being lazy, I'm writing a user tool to do the job for me... ;-)

Very nice alternative solution to Warren's problem, too.


Re: Simulating long appoggiatura

Reply #10
This topic really deals with simulating long appoggiatura, so I have retitled it accordingly.
Those interested in appoggiatura, long, short, and a fair bit of controversy may be interested in these links:
Harvard Dictionary of Music
appoggiatura
The appoggiatura (1.38MB pdf)
LilyPond Music Glossary
How to recognize an appogiatura
How to recognize a double appogiatura
How-to-Execute-Mordents-Trills-and-Appoggiaturas
Appoggiatura - Piano Ornament
The Short Appoggiatura in the 19th century
The Appoggiatura
Bach Music Manuscript Notation
Registered user since 1996

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #11
Now it's logical.
Thanks for the info.


Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #13
Oh, no!
Rick, only now I fully realized what you wrote!

It means that this trick doesn't work anymore:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.51)
|Locale|ACP:1252
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:1|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:1|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:Plain|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"MusikDingsSans"|Size:16|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"MusikTextEuroSans"|Size:10|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"MusikTextEuroSans"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Right hand"|Label:"Harp"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:13|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Brace,ConnectBars|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Harp"|Patch:46|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb|Tonic:F
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Dynamic|Style:f|Pos:-8|Visibility:Never
|Tempo|Tempo:63|Pos:14|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-2,0,5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:1,6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|TempoVariance|Style:Ritenuto|Pos:13
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:2,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:1,6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:0,5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-1,4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-2,3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-9|Placement:BestFitForward
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-3|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Spacer|Width:50
|Rest|Dur:8th,Grace|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th,Grace|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th,Grace|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th,Grace|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-4^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:1^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:4|Pos:11|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Tempo|Tempo:40|Pos:17|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4,-2,1,3|Opts:Stem=Up
|Tempo|Tempo:63|Pos:14|Visibility:Never
|Text|Text:"a tempo"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:19
|Dynamic|Style:mf|Pos:-11
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:-3,4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:-2,5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-1,6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Bar|Style:SectionClose|SysBreak:Y
|AddStaff|Name:"Left hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Brace,ConnectBars|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Harp"|Patch:46|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb|Tonic:F
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Dynamic|Style:mp|Pos:-8|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-2|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Spacer|Width:50
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-4^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:2^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,2,5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,5,7|Opts:Stem=Up
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:7|Placement:BestFitForward
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-1|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Spacer|Width:50
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-1^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:7^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th,Grace|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th,Grace|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th,Grace|Visibility:Never
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:-9|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:14|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Bar
|Bar|Style:SectionClose
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

Grrrrr....

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #14
This seems to be a way of doing it now. Not very elegant but it works. (Haven't sorted out the positioning of the symbol.)

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.51)
|Locale|ACP:1252
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:1|CaretPos:-1
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:1|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:Plain|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"MusikDingsSans"|Size:16|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"MusikTextEuroSans"|Size:10|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"MusikTextEuroSans"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Right hand"|Label:"Harp"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:13|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Brace,ConnectBars|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Harp"|Patch:46|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb|Tonic:F
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Dynamic|Style:f|Pos:-8|Visibility:Never
|Tempo|Tempo:63|Pos:14|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-2,0,5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:1,6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|TempoVariance|Style:Ritenuto|Pos:13
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:2,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:1,6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:0,5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-1,4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-2,3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:-3,2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-9|Placement:BestFitForward
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-3|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Spacer|Width:50
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-5^|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-5^|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-5^|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-5^|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-5|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-4^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:1^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:4|Pos:11|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Tempo|Tempo:40|Pos:17|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4,-2,1,3|Opts:Stem=Up
|Tempo|Tempo:63|Pos:14|Visibility:Never
|Text|Text:"a tempo"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:19
|Dynamic|Style:mf|Pos:-11
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:-3,4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:-2,5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-1,6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Bar|Style:SectionClose|SysBreak:Y
|AddStaff|Name:"Left hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Brace,ConnectBars|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Harp"|Patch:46|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb|Tonic:F
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Dynamic|Style:mp|Pos:-8|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-2|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Spacer|Width:50
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-4^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:2^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,2,5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,5,7|Opts:Stem=Up
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:7|Placement:BestFitForward
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-1|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Spacer|Width:50
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-1^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:7^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2^|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2^|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2^|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2|Visibility:Never
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:14|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Bar
|Bar|Style:SectionClose
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
Rich.

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #15
Glad there is a workaround.
I'm still wondering why now the grace rest... don't rest.
And I'm thinking about the legacy, i.e. my old scores, in special mode the ones for harp...
Thank you, Rich.

 

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #16
Glad there is a workaround.
I like this:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.51,Single)
|Note|Dur:Whole,Grace|Pos:-5x^|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:Whole,Grace|Pos:-5y^|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:Whole,Grace|Pos:-5y|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
It is a drop-in for 2 grace rests from the older versions.
For 1 grace rest, delete the center item. For more grace rest equivalents, dup the center item as many times as needed.
The X head implies (to me) that it is muted. The non-pitched heads have less visual impact in the editor.

Attached is the penultimate measure from Scriabin's Opus 69, No. 1
In the first instance I get the visuals right. In the second, I drop in the delays to fix playback. The lower staff is red so I can see what each staff is contributing to the crossbeam.

I'm still wondering why now the grace rest... don't rest.
Not my idea. I advised against it:
I can't see a downside to this change as a muted grace rest could be used to simulate NWC's current playback behaviour.
Registered user since 1996

Re: False acciaccatura

Reply #17
Rick, I envy your memory... :-)

Re: NWC 2.51 change to grace rest playback

Reply #18
Rick, I envy your memory...
You shouldn't. All I remembered was to search for "muted" and check Options: 'Search in topic subjects only'. It is a short list.

I'm thinking about the legacy, i.e. my old scores
The change only affects Rest Grace items with Visibility set to 'Never'.

You can change Visibility to 'Single Staff Prints' or 'Multi Staff Prints'. One of these will cause the items to be hidden.

Or you can forswear Rest Grace items with Visibility set to 'Never' until this useless (but arguably consistent) behavior is changed.

I plan to replace hidden grace rests with hidden grace notes (per my earlier reply) in my work going forward and as needed in existing work.
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