NoteWorthy Composer Forum

• It doesn't work with notes set to visibility=never (hidden notes).  Since those don't take up horizontal space, the beginning and ending bar lines for those bars come together, and the sign sits in in the next bar.
  
• I'm not sure how the object should treat repeated bars with rests, unless the rests are moved w-a-y off the staff.  You can't make the rest hidden for the same reason as hidden notes, and I don't know how to make a rest the equivalent of a headless zero-stem note without moving it way up or down.

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• Since the courtesy accidental icon is not automatically added to existing customized toolbars and the courtesy accidental does not appear to be part of the Note Properties dialogue, this explanation needs to tell users they have to use the icon, where to find it and how to add it.
• I'm not so sure the c.a. can be applied to an individual note through its right click menu. 
  All I see are Cut, Copy, Paste, Clear, Repeat Last User Tool, User Tool..., Notes >, Filtered Properties and Properties.
  
  Selecting User Tool ... then displays a User Tool menu box, and none of the Groups appear to include the courtesy accidental function.
  
  Selecting Notes > gives 15 choices for the notes, from Beam to Stem Down.
  
  Selecting Properties just turns up the usual Note Properties menu.
  
  A small edit is needed to either remove the sentence or tell users how to get to the c.a. into the right mouse click context sensitive menu.
  

• A label option has been added for both single and double repeat marks. The font class and size can be adjusted.

• The spin (+ and -) keys now increment/decrement the label number.
• Inserting a new object will clone the parameter values from the nearest previous object in the current staff.

• First, I did not want to pop up two dialogs, therefore I put the flag that says whether the symbol should appear into the sign of the label; but maybe the alternative design, with a separate checkbox dialog with default "show symbol" does not need more key hits ... I have not counted them.
• Second, for single staff printing, the user tool should add useful spacers.
• Last, the tool should make all the notes and dynamics (and what else??) invisible when applied.

• ...The main necessary feature is that the number 1 must appear above the notes defining the repeated segment.
  Why?  The tool doesn't seem to increment the number in the repeat bars and I don't think I've ever seen the number 1 appearing above the repeated bar in professionally engraved charts..
  Same for me, but the "bible" B.B. says differently; of course, I want only the option to do it according to Elaine Gould.
• Of course, one could create this label manually. However, to me this simply seems cumbersome - why not use the same object, but without a symbol? This seems quite logical to me.
  I'm not sure what you mean.
  If one wants that 1 above the first execution, one could put a standard text there (instead of the object providing that option); however, then centering would e.g. be not easy.
• The same effect (label, but no symbol because notes are visible) is necessary after a line break, according to one example in B.B.
  Yet in "Repeated bars and line break" you put the number in the visible bar that begins the second system.
  The label is the number (this is the "definition" in Mikes code). So yes, I put the label above the visible bar, as I say. I do not understand your "Yet" ... maybe you thought "label" was something else (see your question somewhere down below).
• First, I did not want to pop up two dialogs, therefore I put the flag that says whether the symbol should appear into the sign of the label; but maybe the alternative design, with a separate checkbox dialog with default "show symbol" does not need more key hits ... I have not counted them. 
  Agreed.  The fewer the clicks the better.  Getting to the label box in the dialogue window is a little awkward.
  As there is only one box, one ends up exactly there without any ado - that should be acceptable.
  
• Second, for single staff printing, the user tool should add useful spacers.
  As it currently works, you need spacers before and after the symbol to make it sit inside the bar instead of over the next bar line.  You want the double bar repeat to sit on the bar line, so it's only the single repeat that needs to be tweaked.
  No, also with double bar repeats spacers are necessary. The spacers are not for sitting inside the bar in the "Single" type - this is nicely done by a computation in Mike's code. The spacers are only necessary for single staff prints, in order to avoid that the bars collapse to length zero.[/green]
• How about changing the symbol from % to .....%..... (where ..... is a space set with the space bar), and using the Preserve Width setting?  The dialogue box could ask the user how many spaces to use..
  The "symbol" is drawn from separate lines, so it is not a text. The space rows, therefore would have to be two separate texts anyway - but then, spacers fulfill the same purpose and - I think - better, as series of spaces do not take part in the distance computations of NWC. Also, I think the space idea only works if one does not want the B.B. feature of having numbers over visible bars; but as I want to advertise NWC (at some point) as "doing all of B.B.", I would not like to do this.
• Last, the tool should make all the notes and dynamics (and what else??) invisible when applied.
  In percussion parts, jazz bass and jazz solo charts, the single bar repeat is dictating the rhythm or the chords  but not necessarily dynamics, text, dynamic variations, or tempo variations.  For instance, I occasionally see hairpins in the last few bars of single bar repeats.  In such cases, the repeat sign is not "correctly" a repeat, since you want the player to do what the rest of the group is doing.  I think it would be enough to simply change the notes within each bar to invisible, rather than make everything else invisible too.
  The user tool will (should) do what's standard; afterwards, one can manually change any visibility of any item at will. Te standard, according to B.B., is "notes and rests; and dynamics" - that's why I chose them. From your comment, I think that this is exactly what should be done. Unfortunately, there will probably be problems with hairpins anyway, as they will vanish, when the notes become invisible. In such cases, layered staffs might be the only solution ... but this certainly will not be part of that "simple convenience tool".
• RepeatMark.ms places brackets around the label:  (4), (6) etc.  That is preferable to the label currently generated by RepeatMark_ms.hmm.  Why?  I recently sight read a chart with many successive two-bar repeat signs, each of which had the required 2 over the symbol.  The chart also had small printed bar numbers above each bar line as well as labels showing the repeat iteration number.  Brackets around the label make it easier to differentiate from the other numbers.
  My modification has exactly the same behavior by default (single -> brackets, double -> no brackets) ... might be buggy right now; however, one can also choose the format explicitly, because neither B.B. nor the scores I have follow this convention.
• Each repeat sign seems to need to be entered manually, with labels (if needed) set individually. The numbers in the label don't seem to increment automatically (maybe I missed it).  Automatic would be better, since suppressing the label with 0 or setting the label requires some awkward mouse movement in the popup window.
  When one selects more than one bar in the user tool, the bars get incremented numbers.
• I wonder if the logic could work like the multibar rest sign?  Insert the tool in the bar after the one that is to be repeated, set the number of times it is to copy that bar, make the notes invisible and insert the sign, and give the user control over which repeat iterations get labelled.
  I thought about that also; right now, the "mark it and then run it" seems nicer - why should I count the bars? Your suggestion is, if I understand it correctly, also to copy the notes - but this is, from my experience, not the use case: You will have the copied notes already there (because you listened to them while arranging), and inserting repeat marks is just a final decision about appearance (which might be reversed for numerous reasons, e.g. that line or page breaks have to occur in the middle of the repeat sequence and the like).
• Each simile bar may be labelled with a number if the user wishes, but it's more common to only see the label every 4 or 6 bars. Your tool allows the label to be suppressed, but the best way to invoke that is simply set it up in the first repeat bar and copy that entire bar as many times as desired, changing the ones you want to label.
  Except for that one example in B.B. with the tremolos, I have never seen non-contiguous labels, I must say. But still - setting the labels in between to zero (i.e., suppress the label) is easy - just select the whole range over all user tools and set the label
  to zero for all of them with a single operation.

I'll try