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Newsgroup trouble again ;(

I'm really curious on what the hell is happening to this server so frequently.

440 No posting!

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Reply #1
The problem has recovered...

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Reply #2
... or not...

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Reply #3
It's down again...

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Reply #4
>I guess Ezusa is entirely dead?

I think the reply meant that it is still alive, but they have no "support". Which is probably accurate. ;-)

I've sent one to postmaster and not received any prompt replies. I'll wait and see what happens next.

A

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Reply #5
Hey! You guys fixed it! ;-)

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Reply #6
The ng is still out of response. What's the condition with other users?

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Reply #7
No activity here either. Unable to connect to server.

Sarah

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Reply #8
Same. Netscape 6.1b1 reports "Connection refused by server" even when checking for unread messages.

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Reply #9
No connection possible here either for the last three days... is someone in touch with EZUSA and can give us a status?

Sue

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Reply #10
I decided to be the one who hits the nail with his head and have just e-mailed Ezusa about the situation.

Curious if they will respond.

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Reply #11
What aquick response!

<From "System Administrator":>

Your message

To: support@ezusa.net
Subject: new.ezusa.net/ntworthy.nwc
Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:24:07 -0500

did not reach the following recipient(s):

support@ezusa.net on Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:22:45 -0500
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=american
systems;l=EZUSA010107312322P9J2G628
MSEXCH:IMS:American Systems:EZUSA:EZUSA01 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient

</From "System Administrator">

I guess Ezusa is entirely dead?

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Reply #12
Or not - as the case may be.

Yesterday's brief flurry of activity was just a tease to keep us interested.

Rich

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Reply #13
1 Aug, 2001, 0945 hours
I got in. Reading message now. Was concerned ezusa mighta been caught by the Code Red worm.

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Reply #14
7pm BST. Once again no activity. I could access this morning! Bout 6 as I recall! GRR...I don't remember it ever being THIS bad!

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Reply #15
After having worked for about half an hour, it's dead now (August 2, 2001 Thu, 00:04 GMT +2)

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Reply #16
...it's however "accessible" but I'm unable to post.

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Reply #17
Still no chance here, haven't even had the brief moments of success y'all have enjoyed...

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Reply #18
I had problems a few days ago when I connected to the newsgroup and all my NWC mailbox was inexplicably deleted - I've connected on and off since then, and the mail was filling up again and downloading fine (sporadically). For the first time today, just now, it looked as if all was working again, and on clicking on "get all mail" instead of downloading anything, all my folder was once again wiped out- what on earth is happening? (all my options are as they have always been)

- Ann (even more perplexed!)

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Reply #19
I've seen weird things like this also (using Netscape). Once it reported 88 unread messages but wouldn't display them (later it turned out there were only 5 unread messages). Another time I had the same thing happen, apparently all message headers gone... but reappeared when the server was in one of its rare moments of coherence.

I suspect all will be well again once it's all running properly. If not, we'll all just have to unsubscribe/resubscribe.

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Reply #20
Why do we need the newsgroup? Can't we just use this forum? I don't know... I'm just asking, but the forum has never crashed!!

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Reply #21
My take on this is that the two resources fill different needs; the forum tends to be more technical, and gets archived by NoteWorthy Software into the offline version which can be accessed as a Windows Help file. OTOH, the newsgroup tends to be more casual, and has the benefit of allowing file attachments. It has more of a "chat room" feel to it, whereas the forum should - in my opinion - be more of a reference resource.


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Reply #23
Andreas,

It isn't,now! 22:10 03/08.

Sarah

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Reply #24
Hmm, isn't responding again. *Sigh*

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Reply #25
Can someone explain the difference between Ezusa and Usenet?
Maybe switching the group to usenet is the answer.

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Reply #26
The WHOIS for ezusa.net lists as Administrative, Technical, and Billing contact:

Porter, Matt (MP2346) matt@AMERICANSYS.COM
American Systems
5424 Rufe Snow #320
Fort Worth, TX 76180
(817)485-6547 (FAX) (817)485-2193

Has anyone contacted him?

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Reply #27
A new statistic for Richards list.

"The last message ever posted on the NWC newsgroup - Peanutjake 3 Aug 2001 - (NG R.I.P.)"

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Reply #28
Let's hope not !

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Reply #29
I hope all is restored very soon - I'm beginning to get this urge to do gardening and an overpowering craving for sherbert.

Are these classic withdrawal symptoms?

- Ann

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Reply #30
Good Grief!

I leave you all on your own for a week, and you've gone and broken the newsgroup!

I was hoping that I wouldn't have too much catching up to do when I got back, but this is silly.

Jason.

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Reply #31
If you're looking for something else to do, you can always try to improve your rogues gallery score :-)

Rich.

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Reply #32
Newsgroup still OTL from here...

The company that owns EZUSA.NET has a support e-mail: support@americansys.com

Do we have an official contact to interface with Ezusa? (I'd assume it would be somebody paying the bill) ... If I can help let me know, I'd be happy to start e-mailing around and see who I can scare up.

Sue

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Reply #33
FWIW, tracert to news.ezusa.net works from here, but that's all...

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Reply #34
Still down, 19:45 BST (GMT+1). Been down the past two days and only one message showed on Friday.

Geoff

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Reply #35
Walt,

The group isn't on USENET for one pertinent reason - SPAM. If this group were on USENET, rather than the independent server it is now, it would be swamped with spam like 90% of USENET is now. I know this is frustrating, but I would rather wait until it's fixed, than have to wade through adverts for penis enhancements and porn.

Sarah

P.S. As of 9pm BST, it's STILL down!

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Reply #36
The one and only cure for SPAM is a moderated group. (eg, soc.religion.islam on the Usenet and turkmusikisi at yahoogroups are moderated to name two)

However, a moderated group would be 'overkill' for Eric. Another idea may be starting a user sponsored (unofficial as the Scripto is) moderated yahoogroup.

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Reply #37
Oh, well. I was going to premiere my piano concerto on esuza, but I guess I'll have to give it to the New York Philharmonic now.

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Reply #38
Well, Walt. All I can say is that ezusa has always come back from the dead before. But I'd have to add that this is the longest it has been down for.
If you (or anyone else) wants to show off your piano concerto in the mean time, you only need upload it somewhere and post the URL for it on this forum.

The Scriptorium is still up and working and anybody wanting to send me NWC files is very welcome to do so.
Please visit http://www.vadu.com/nwc/submit.html for details.

Andrew

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Reply #39
Well, it's Monday morning, 8/6, and the NG is still down. I'm not sure when the last time I was able to get into it. the latest DATE I can find is the 1st. I am beginning to wonder if ezusa didn't get hit by the Code Red worm. It is supposed to have shwon up in a couple of variants.

I still say, we need to do something EXTREMELY drastic to the miscreants that create/launch these malicious programs. The vikings had an execution method I find appropriate for the effects these vandals cause. The Vikings would slit a man's bely open and nail a loop of his small bowel to a post. Then they would drive him to run in circles around the post until he had disemboweled himself. Maybe a couple of these - simulcast on CNN and the web would go some distance towards towards curbing such behavior.

I am not really serious about disemboweling the creators of viruses and the like but I am serious that the WORLD needs to get serious about prosecuting such crime. A single virus can cost MILLIONS or even THOUSANDS OF MILLIONS (billions?) of dollars world wide. They drive up the cost of goods and services on a global scale. Every nation that wants/expects to be part ot the community of nations must agree to punish such activities severely. If Outer Slobovia refuses to prosecute/punish a virus creator living in their borders, then their loans to the wold bank equal to the estimated damage can be called in. I thing the threat of wrecking the economy of Outer Slobovia would get the Slobovian officials' attentions.

Or not, as the case may be.

Rant over.

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Reply #40
Alright, I can't stand it any longer!

I have e-mailed both support and matt at americansys.com, we'll see what (if anything) they have to say to me. I made it clear I was a user only and could be safely ignored if someone in more authority is in touch with them over the server. I hope that disclaimer will suffice for my meddling! :>

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Reply #41
Had a reply back from Matt Porter right away. Here's what he had to say:

We are having quite a bit of trouble with our newsgroup server. We installed the Code Red patch that prevents that nasty worm from spreading. But for some odd reason it made the newsgroup server go haywire.

It's been my life day and night for over a week to get this back up and running. I'm guess worst case we are a day or two away from being 100% up.

Thanks for checking in.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Sincerely,
Matt Porter
American Systems

So, I guess we hang in there, us nwc newsgroupies! :> Can you imagine, getting hit with the PATCH to the worm??? Egads...

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Reply #42
Gee Sue, you must have asked him really nicely, 'cos he didn't reply to my e-mail to support@ezusa.net

Either way, the server is back up and running now.
Agreed, how ironic for it to be down because of an installed PATCH! But that must mean that they are running a Microsoft server. Bad idea.

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Reply #43
> 'cos he didn't reply to my e-mail to support@ezusa.net

I got that reply:

<repost>

<From "System Administrator":>

Your message

To: support@ezusa.net
Subject: new.ezusa.net/ntworthy.nwc
Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:24:07 -0500

did not reach the following recipient(s):

support@ezusa.net on Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:22:45 -0500
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=american
systems;l=EZUSA010107312322P9J2G628
MSEXCH:IMS:American Systems:EZUSA:EZUSA01 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient

</From "System Administrator">

</repost>

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Reply #44
2:30 AM GMT + 2:00

Down again...

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Reply #45
KNEW it was too good to last!

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Reply #46
I can download messages but cannot post!

'441 (620) Article Rejected -- Insertion into group (null) of article (null) failed.'

Anyone facing this?

(21:45 GMT + 2:00)

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Reply #47
I can't even access the server. :-(

-- Andreas

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Reply #48
Today I can read, but I get an error when I try to post.
Wait till you hear my latest "Kidney Pie."

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Reply #49
I can't access the server either today. :(

Maybe it will force me to get around to submitting some stuff to the Scriptorium.

Are there any other sites available to host just the news group?

Why exactly is this happening?