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Messages - Rob den Heijer

351
General Discussion / Re: THANK GOODNESS FOR SYSTEM RESTOR
Simple - the subject title is in all capitals.
Your message reminds us mortals of the old adage:
Make Backups!
And: keep all your Noteworthy-files in one directory tree, and save it from time to time. On your 1 GB, 10 Euro SAN Disk that you bought with your new camera, for instance! And then save it on another PC. Or mail the whole Zipped thing (can't be big) to yourself on Gmail, for safe keeping. The options are endless.

What I think happened is: your precious Noteworthy-files were never lost. Only the program was. By going back on your M$ traces, you reinstalled the Noteworthy program... and since you never changed the path to your files, all your .nwc files automagically reappeared.

cheers,
Rob.
352
General Discussion / Re: Music search engine
that's what I always think at the end of the Messiah:
... to receive power, and and ritches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing, and the kitchen sink.

cheers, Rob.
353
General Discussion / Re: Another one
70 years is a safe age for "end of copyright".
The newsgroup sometimes has posts with copyrighted material, with the connotation "strictly for your own personal enjoyment". The Internet is not quite the place.
Infringement, how right you are:

"Though the Barrister tried to appeal to its pride,
        And vainly proceeded to cite
A number of cases, in which making laces
        Had been proved an infringement of right."

(could not resist)
cheers,
Rob.
354
General Discussion / Re: A musical question
A canon is a round. "Dona Nobis Pacem" is quite well known. 4 lines, singable as a 4-part song. Group 1 starts with line 1. When group 1 reaches line 2, group 2 starts with line 1. When group 1 reaches line 3 while hopefully group 2 reaches line 3, group 3 starts with line 1. Then the next line for all. After line 4, group 1 goes back to line 1, until someone signals a halt.
There are many Taizé-rounds, and very nice ones too.

The best known fugue is Bach's fugue from "Toccata und Fuga".
I would also mention "Cum Sancto Spirito" from Mozart's Mass in C Minor. But there are literally thousands, and then some.

cheers,
Rob.
355
General Discussion / Re: wish list - radio buttons
... the same applies to slurs and ties, of course.
You want the slur to go up?
Highlight, Alt-Enter, Alt-S, U, Enter. Works like a charm.

And then, if you really use these a lot, it is likely that you want to apply "Slurs direction = Up" & "Ties direction = Up" for a whole staff. Well, enter the whole staff, mark the staff, and do it all at once!

Is this what you want? If yes, how many keystrokes per week did I just save you?

cheers,
Rob.
356
General Discussion / Re: wish list - radio buttons
What I do not quite understand is: how would radio buttons save keystrokes?
This is what I do if I do not want something to show up on the printed page.
Highlight (using the cursor keys and the Shift key)
Alt-Enter
go to Visibility-tab, using Ctrl-PgDn if this tab is not yet selected
and I type "N" <enter>

Next item, highlight, Alt-Enter, N, Enter.
How are you going to shorten this using radio buttons?

cheers,
Rob.
357
General Discussion / Re: MIDI conversion error with NWC2, but not with Player 1.75b
I would vote for a change in the import routine. An entry in the FAQ would do for now, but it's not the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.
Also, a warning error (an legible one) would be in place.

cheers from Nieuwegein, my work address (and a nice day for biking it is - no car or tailbacks for me!)
Rob.
360
General Discussion / Re: MIDI conversion error with NWC2, but not with Player 1.75b
Hi Geert,

To me, it seems that Noteworthy 1.75 ignores the errors while 2.0 detects them and shows error messages.
After import, there is a strange tempo mismatch between the staves, so that is where the error must be.
The Van Basco Karaoke Player plays correctly, so this Midi-file can be interpreted "correctly".
This means that there is a combination of unusual behaviour (on the side of the one who produced the Midi file) and the import process that maybe does assumptions that do not always hold.
I do not have a copy of Cakewalk or anything like that: I wonder what would happen when someone imported this file into Cakewalk and then exported it again. The result should be fit for Noteworthy.

"...they set him conundrums to guess..."

cheers,
Rob den Heijer, Maarssen, Netherlands.

364
General Discussion / Re: NWC Viewer limitation
Fitzclan, the CPDL is the Choral Public Domain Library, also known as the Choral Wiki.
For me, the two best sources of music are the Noteworthy Scriptorium and www.cpdl.org .
The latter has many contributions in pdf format, many in Finale, some in Noteworthy. Take a look around, you will not regret it. The number of interesting pieces of music that I was *not* looking for but found nevertheless is still rising. Having said that, I wish it were all in Noteworthy...

Concerning WinZip and others: their marketing strategy seems to be 'Everyone should know and use it, and businesses (who are scared to death to use unpaid software) will foot the bill."
Noteworthy could reason as follows: "Everyone should know and use it, and the composers foot the bill."
To make it more wonderful: I know a number of Noteworthy users who actually DID buy, and are nowhere near being a composer. This includes Me & Myself.

cheers,Rob.
365
General Discussion / Re: New at this - Inserting Choruses?
Hi Anna,

Look at the sample songs. And look for Noteworthy-songs on the Web, and play some. It gives you a better idea of Noteworthy, and how to work with it.
It takes forever, note by note? No, not at all. Yesterday, I was very busy. For a break, I entered a song of two pages in Noteworthy. Only using the keyboard. Once you know your way around it, it's the fastest and most accurate way. 7, 8, 9 for natural, flat, sharp; 2,3,4 for half, quarter and eighth notes, the odd dot for dotted notes, and of course Enter and space for actually entering notes and rests... A very good start. And tab for bars.
Ties, slurs, beams: you can always do them afterwards by highlighting the note/notes (with the mouse or keyboard!) and pressing Alt-Enter.
Didn't scare you off now?
Enjoy the program: it's big fun, and very rewarding!
cheers,
Rob
(Maarssen, Netherlands)
366
General Discussion / Re: NWC Viewer limitation
I want Noteworthy-viewers, usable ones, to be distributed thousands of times, or preferably millions of times. The percentage of viewer-users who think "this is great, I want the whole thing! What, only $39, I want it NOW!" is nearly constant. The more the merrier.
However, it is not for me to decide Noteworthy's marketing strategy.
(OT: the best strategy would be to convert everything in the CPDL into Noteworthy. The CPDL always ranks high when searching for a composition or song. We could throw together an unpaid CPDL Boost Committee, and get this show on the road. Haven't thought out an attack plan, though.)

Too many choristers find it hard enough to installing *anything*, even if it is free. If they have to pay, however feeble the amount, the percentage of Noteworthy users drops. And with that, the absolute number of Noteworthy buyers.
cheers,
Rob.
367
General Discussion / Re: NWC Viewer limitation
Yes, well, that's all possible. But not handy. When I have worked hard on an 8-part choral piece, I do not like to send out 8 individual copies of a Noteworthy-file. It drives choir members mad. "Which one is mine?" Also, the process of creating these 8 files should not be interrupted by friendly offers of coffee, telephone calls, cats jumping on laps and so forth. I am bound to send out at least one wrong version.
I simply want the Noteworthy-viewer to be suitable for my "end users". As it is now, the viewer is not.


368
General Discussion / Re: NWC Viewer limitation
For rehearsal purposes, there are these things that I see as important. Some of them already addressed.
1. Go to any point, and play from there.
2. Play one staff only.
3. Play all staves minus one.
4. Change tempo.
5. Choose instruments, volume and stereo pan. That way, I do not have to put four different .nwc files on my internet pages.
I simply put everything on left channel, volume 80. Now, the tenor can go to his own staff, put it on 127/127 and it is "his" part.

In order for the viewer program to be Completely Uncrackable, it should simply compiled without printing and saving options! No hacker can add the features that are not there...

cheers,
Rob.
369
General Discussion / Re: NWC Viewer limitation
Be glad to, llucyy.

I still think that there is now quite a paradigm-shift.
How many buyers of Noteworthy do composing?
How many buyers of Noteworthy do (only) notating?

I do not compose. I do, however, put things in Noteworthy. For choir practise reasons. My "users" could use the viewer, but is so limited that it is hardly useful. But they would be greatly helped by a Noteworthy version that can open .nwc files, change them around a bit, choose instruments, set volumes, play them, play some bars, play their own staff, etc.
This version could be without any file saving or printing capabilities. Just for an End User Noteworthy, who does not necessarily know the difference between two clefs, and who hardly can tell a sharp from a natural at nightfall.

I think that, even though Noteworthy started for (and by) composers, it has been hijacked a bit by choir masters, barbershop singers, Scratch Messiah singers and more - who want to study their parts and find Noteworthy ideal.
The development of Noteworthy might reflect this (if or when I am right)
If I am right, the marketing of Noteworthy could change a bit. But I am no expert on that - but silver or even golden opportunities might be out there. With benefits for us all.

cheers,
Rob.
370
General Discussion / Re: Two notes on same row?
Oh dear. Read the Faq first, mon brave.
But since I'm here: enter the first note, go to the line where you want the second note and press Ctrl-Enter.
Hey Presto! Do some searching around the Forum: there are lots of interesting topics concerning chords containing notes of different lengths, notes and spaces, stem up, stem down.
And layering.

enjoy the program,
Rob.
371
General Discussion / Re: Midi - NWC conflict?
Ann,
There are other things to play Midi with. My choice is "Van Basco's Karaoke Player". Free, no ads, no hassle, lovely look, simple to use. Google it and forget about the Media Player for Midi for good!
And... it leaves the settings alone.
373
General Discussion / Re: Midi Playback wierdness
Rick, this tip is a golden one.
I have helped quite number of people with "silent Noteworthy" already, telling them to stard sndvol32 and unchecking the mute box of the FM Synthesizer. Works without fail. But I have recently upgraded my response to include the reason. And helped someone only two days ago, doing just that.
So - thanks!
Rob.
374
General Discussion / Re: newbie problem
Then shall the eyes of the blind be opened, and the ears of the deaf unstopped!
Very good, I learn a few tricks today - thanks Rick.
And Timoteus, how do you look in a push up bra?
375
General Discussion / Re: WINDOWS VISTA
I just heard some nasty things about Vista. Volume control is now per application, so no longer overall. This can have serious consequences. If you have a keyboard with volume control on it, your volume control will affect the application in question, i.e. the keyboard driver/program. Not Noteworthy, not Van Basco, not Windows Media Player.
Maybe this behaviour will be optional in the future, but it bodes ill.

Anyway, nobody has been able to explain why I should get it - yet. I'll wait. And wait. And wait.
377
General Discussion / Re: New Signature
Still, it's quite a big picture.
And hey, user111, you're a bit quiet. I have been harbouring suspicions about your identity. Are you not exactly the same as...? No hard feelings? ;-)
378
General Discussion / Re: New Signature
Ah. That, now, makes sense. Gigabytes are cheap - data transfer is not. Therefore, a free page can be monitored by the host. If anyone links to an image, that would cost the site owner (Tripod, in this case) money every time someone opens the page with that link in it!
The substituted image is so small that data transfer is not an issue. So yes, the image has to be hosted somewhere else.
That's why I saw a box of washing powder only, instead of a sketch.
379
General Discussion / Re: New Signature
This is sooooo strange. I can see the Tripod picture. A bit stretched, but hey, there it is. I can see mine as well. Same picture, only I righted the dimensions. None in sight for you guys? It's not Tripod - at least not solely.
383
General Discussion / Re: New Signature
There's something wrong with the html of the image. Hight and width are given:
<img src="http://joshers2004.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/josh_sketch.gif" alt=""
width="125" height="183" border="0" />

but it should simply be
<img src="http://joshers2004.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/josh_sketch.gif" alt="" border="0" />
The image itself is good.
The elongated version looks like a box of washing powder.
384
General Discussion / Re: Mixed lyric font characteristics - bold, italic, underlined & etc.
Oh well... would it really be that big a burden? Since every syllable is always attached to a note, a note could have a new property, being "how do you want the text for this note?" if other than default.

In this way, I think the consequences are overseeable. Sometimes I want the height of the syllable to vary. To accomplish this now, I set the note to Lyrics, Never. Then I add some text with the x command, and adjust heigt to taste. Cumbersome.
Simple things like relative vertical position and maybe point size would help greatly.
cheers, Rob.
385
General Discussion / Re: Export to version 1x
The warning when trying to save a NWC 1.75 file in NWC2 still sounds the same. In fact, it still holds true, but it is now a much less dire warning:

"Warning for File: ThisSong.nwc

This song was last saved using an older NWC format. If you save this file now, the original version will no longer be able to open it. Proceed?"

As far as I am concerned, the whole warning may be omitted. Any opinions?
386
Version 1.75 Discussion / Re: NWC2 to NWC
I am impressed, delighted and full of beans!
Really, from now on I will use NWC2 much more - and tell more folks about it.
NWC2 rulez!
390
General Discussion / Re: Lyrics and ripples
NWC 1.75 and such support 'Lyric Syllable, Never.' I use it a lot.
Another method is putting _ _ _ in your text, but that takes some counting.
cheers,
Rob.
391
General Discussion / Re: Entering chord
Hi Bart,
Whereabouts in the Netherlands do you live?
Just curious. I'm from Maarssen.
cheers,
Rob.
btw, always trust Rich. He knows the score ;-)
392
General Discussion / Re: Frustration with new forum
Well... I feel a bit alienated. I used to visit the old forum every day. This one, I check for 'unread posts since last visit', so I am quite sure I will not miss much.
But the old forum felt better - don't quite know why. This certainly looks better. I do not use the gadgetry, but I can appreciate others using it.
It's a bit of a pity that all this work has gone into it (as I am sure it has) and it does not reap the rewards. The new forum is a necessity, because the old one did not have the proper facilities to block out unwanted posters - and we have seen enough of that, and of them.
So there's no turning back. As Bogey said: Take it and like it!

Rob.
393
General Discussion / Re: Show latest posts at the top
Maybe you should go to bed earlier, judging by the time of your post. And think more clearly as a result, saving us unnecessary Why's and saving yourself unanswered questions.
(You will notice that I answered TO your question, but I did not answer any of your questions. And DON'T ask why!)
396
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium files
A registry hack is not advisable - agreed.
But if I would have the registry I want it, I could export the key(s) that are necessary, and anyone else could simply doubleclick on the .reg file.
Maybe it's an option worth considering...
Rob.
399
General Discussion / Re: Need help with groups
It's not that hard... but you have to realise that the 'Group' field is not really a drop down box. You can type right over the group name, and create a new group in doing so. That's all, really!