Note spacing/layering question

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Note spacing/layering question

2015-09-27 10:43 am

Hello all,

I am creating a score with a piano part, and am having some difficulties getting a few measures to look the way they do in the original sheet music. It is basically a "split voice" chord where a half-note is on the same beat as a dotted quarter, but the notes overlap, so extra note spacing is needed; please see the attached clip to see what I'm talking about. I am using layered staves and extra note spacing, but of course that spacing increment has to be whole note space values, so the spacing between the two notes is a bit more than I want; in the original music, the spacing is closer to 1.5 noteheads.

I've tried to insert spacers in lieu of (and in addition to) extra note spacing, but I can't get that to have the desired effect, because it seems to always move both notes/chords together. I thought I would ask the experts here (especially those whose initials are RG) to see if there is a trick I'm missing.

Thanks in advance,
Mike

P.S. The answer to this might be "your original piano arrangement is doing it wrong." I am okay with that being the case.

EDIT: I have added a nwctxt clip below; sorry for the previous omission.

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]

!NoteWorthyComposer(2.75)
|AddStaff
|StaffProperties|WithNextStaff:Layer
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#|Tonic:G
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:0,7|Opts:Stem=Down,XNoteSpace=2
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-1,6|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,5|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,6|Opts:Stem=Down
|Bar
|AddStaff
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#|Tonic:G
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up
|Rest|Dur:Half|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

Re: Note spacing/layering question

Reply #1 – 2015-09-27 10:54 am

This is the best I could do while still doing it in a straight forward manner (no fake half note):

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]

!NoteWorthyComposer(2.75)
|AddStaff
|StaffProperties|WithNextStaff:Layer
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,XNoteSpace=1
|Rest|Dur:Half|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|AddStaff
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:0,7|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-1,6|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,5|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,6|Opts:Stem=Down
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

Re: Note spacing/layering question

Reply #2 – 2015-09-27 12:43 pm

Hi,
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you wanted, but it can reduce a little more the space between the "half note" and the "dotted quarter". As I didn't see the original sheet music I don't know if this is the correct position of both "dotted chord" and "half" (in your clip the half if before the chord...) but take a look at the clip.

Of course I don't know if it will work in conjunction with your complete work and, unfortunately, this makes an annoying space after the clef... sorry, it's not perfect... but I hope it will help you a little.

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]

!NoteWorthyComposer(2.75)
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:StemLength=0,NoLegerLines,ArticulationsOnStem|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up
|Rest|Dur:64th|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:32nd|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:16th|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-2"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:0,7|Opts:Stem=Down,XNoteSpace=1
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-1,6|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,5|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,6|Opts:Stem=Down
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|WithNextStaff:Layer|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:Y|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,XNoteSpace=2
|Rest|Dur:Half|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-3"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:Y|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:3
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:0,7|Opts:Stem=Down,XNoteSpace=1
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-1,6|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,5|Opts:Stem=Down
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,6|Opts:Stem=Down
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

Re: Note spacing/layering question

Reply #3 – 2015-09-27 02:50 pm

Quote from: Mike Shawaluk – 2015-09-27 10:43 am

the spacing between the two notes is a bit more than I want; in the original music, the spacing is closer to 1.5 noteheads.

This is 1.4 noteheads:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]

!NoteWorthyComposer(2.75)
|PgSetup|StaffSize:18|DurationPadding:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)|WithNextStaff:Layer
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#|Tonic:G
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|RestChord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Opts:Stem=Down,HideRest|Dur2:Half|Pos2:3
|Spacer|Width:300
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:Half|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-2"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#|Tonic:G
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:0,7|Visibility:Never
|User|Markup.rg|Pos:0|Markup:/f1/h1.4k_/y1z/r7k_z/m0.5/r6/x-0.25C/r6CC/r6.7/a-90CCCCCCCCCC
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-1,6
|Spacer|Width:75
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,5
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,2,6
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

Re: Note spacing/layering question

Reply #4 – 2015-09-28 11:46 am

This might help with note spacing: Spacer.htm