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Grace note positioning bug

In the original score, (When Jealous Torments from Yeomen of the Guard, ("cat you fondle, soft and sly")) both these were on treble clefs and had a key signature of Cminor, in the middle of a modulation, but it doesn't really matter. Put them on staves one atop the other.

Top staff:
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:b8
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:8
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:7
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:7
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:6
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:6
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:5
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End


Bottom Staff
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,6
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,6
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:#1,5
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,5
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:n0,4
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,4
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:#1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,n3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

In every measure of the four, the grace notes, which ought to align, don't.

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #1
The misalignment is caused by the accidentals.  Note properties/Extra Accidental Spacing will correct the problem:

Top staff
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:b8
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:8
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:7|Opts:XAccSpace=1
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:7
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End,XAccSpace=1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:6|Opts:XAccSpace=1
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:6
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:5|Opts:XAccSpace=1!
NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Bottom staff
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,6|Opts:XAccSpace=1
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,6
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:#1,5
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,5
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:n0,4
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,4
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:#1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,n3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
 

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #2
As I suspected, but wasn't sure how to fix. Thanks!

However, shouldn't this be automatic?

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #3
I agree, although it is a minor bug, it would be nice if NWC automatically aligned these, however it is nice (at this point anyway), to have the option of the extra accidental spacing as it is useful in aligning other characters from say boxmarks font. I don't know if you would be able to have it both ways.

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #4
Hmm.  could the gracenotes be positioned independantly of the notes and the space they need after? I find it hard to imagine a situation where gracenotes SHOULDN'T align.

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #5
And then it doesn't realign when I change the grace notes to eighth-notes.
Also, the way it's layered, it shows it as thirty-second notes, not sixteenth notes.

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #6
You could adjust stem length on one staff so that the flags align correctly..
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Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #7
Er, should  clarify: When I said one atop the other, I just meant "In the same system", not "Layered"

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #8
You could adjust stem length on one staff so that the flags align correctly..
or just change the grace notes on the bottom staff to quarter notes.

I don't see why a layer is needed here. This:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4,n6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5,7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,6,b8
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4,6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:5,7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2,6,8
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3,5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4,6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:#1,5,7
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:3,5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:4,6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1,5,7
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2,4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:n3,5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:n0,4,6
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2,4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:3,5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,4,6
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:#1,n3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:2,4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0,n3,5
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
seems to be what you want.
Registered user since 1996

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #9
That would be the equivalent of layered, only without layering.
Layering would be one staff on top of the other.

In the same system, what Adam wants, would be something like the two staffs of a piano.
Got it?

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #10
... In the same system, what Adam wants, would be something like the two staffs of a piano.
Got it?
Sorry:
... Put them on staves one atop the other.
made me think it was a layer, but:
... both these were on treble clefs ...
would seem to clarify.

Registered user since 1996

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #11
Er, should  clarify: When I said one atop the other, I just meant "In the same system", not "Layered"
This also works as saying what he wants-in which case David's is the best.

Re: Grace note positioning bug

Reply #12
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