Does this sound like a pentuplet??

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Does this sound like a pentuplet??

2006-01-23 10:52 pm

I am not sure if this sounds correct.

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Tempo|Tempo:148|Pos:30|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Text|Text:"5"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:-9
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Tempo|Tempo:120|Pos:34|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Is there anything did wrong with the tempi (I don't know if it should be tempos or tempi) that I did? (They are hidden) If so..can some in gave me a give me a % that I can raise the tempo during the pentuplet?? (Ex. raise it up 20 b.p.m. each time)

Re: Does this sound like a pentuplet??

Reply #1 – 2006-01-23 10:53 pm

I raised the tempo in the pentuplet by 28 b.p.m 120 + 28 = 148

Re: Does this sound like a pentuplet??

Reply #2 – 2006-01-23 11:48 pm

If you want 5 notes to play in the time of 4, multiply the original tempo by 5/4.
New tempo goes before the figure, restore original tempo after the figure.

Re: Does this sound like a pentuplet??

Reply #3 – 2006-01-24 12:59 am

Let's see.. 5/4 + 1.25 = 150. So you must multiply by one and a quarter. Well, if you multiply by one..you get the same tempo..so...you must add a quarter's worth of the tempo to have your new tempo. presto! So for example..If my tempo is 60...I add 15 because 60 X 1/4 (.25) = 15. Check it..15 X 4 + 60. Presto!!

Re: Does this sound like a pentuplet??

Reply #4 – 2006-01-24 01:11 am

Now tell me why this doesn't sound right.
Put this on the treble of the piano

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Tempo|Tempo:150|Pos:30|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Text|Text:"5"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:-9
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Tempo|Tempo:120|Pos:34|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Now put this on the bass of the piano

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-4|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-1|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Re: Does this sound like a pentuplet??

Reply #5 – 2006-01-24 02:05 am

For analysis, I cut your tempos to 1/3 and converted your quintuplet notes to tied 64ths. Your left hand quarter notes in bar 2 are correctly placed, both aurally and visually.

To get the right playback, mute the left hand part, copy it to a new staff, and tie the quarter notes in bar 2 to the sixteenths. This will give you the playback you want. Make this "playback" staff invisible.

Right hand part:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Tempo|Tempo:40|Pos:34|Visibility:Never
|Key|Signature:Bb
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Tempo|Tempo:50|Pos:30|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Text|Text:"5"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:-9
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Tempo|Tempo:40|Pos:34|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Hidden staff:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4^
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-4|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1^
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-1|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Re: Does this sound like a pentuplet??

Reply #6 – 2006-01-24 06:15 pm

Have you looked at https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2326?