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transpose music

Who can help me with transposing my music with a treble clef onto music with a bass clef?
The staffs with the treble clef are in E flat major, but when I transpose it to the bass clef (Tools - Transpose - 10 semitones and then change the clef manually from treble to clef), the key signatures changes from 3 to 5 (E flat major onto D flat major).
I think I did wrong something. But what?

Re: transpose music

Reply #2 –
An octave transposition is 12 semitones (not 10).

The most efficient way (in my opinion) of changing trable clef to bass (and simultaneously transposing an octave down)
is to use the user tool CLEF CHANGE (which allows you to change between pretty much ALL clefs)

To download CLEF CHANGE, with instruction for installation, go to:

http://nwc-scriptorium.org/nwc2scripts_kbsc_clef_change.html

This will be sufficient for NWC2.1

The trick to do a clef change from treble to bass AND simultaneously do an octave DOWN transposition,
is to use the (very much counter-intuitive) "Octave UP" option on CLEF CHANGE,
and then merely replacing the target clef with the standard Bass clef.

If you are using NWC2.5.5, you will need to follow Rick's excellent  write-up on
how to migrate user tools from NWC 2.1 to NWC 2.5.5.

Please see:

https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=8327.msg58574#msg58574

HTH

Re: transpose music

Reply #3 –
What could be more efficient than the old basics?

Go to the beginning of the staff you want to change.  Highlight the entire staff.  Press shift-down (bass to treble) or shift-up (treble to bass) 12 times.  Then change the clef sign.  The key signature will move up or down two lines when the clef is changed.  You can do this for parts of a staff too, if you wish to change the clef only for a bit of it. Just highlight the bars you want to shift.

If you need a key change as well, for instance when you transpose a bassoon or trombone part for bari sax, you can do it either before or after the clef change.  It doesn't matter.




 

Re: transpose music

Reply #4 –
David, my reasoning is:
1. I'm basically lazy - i.e. I prefer the assurance that CHANGE CLEF will do the job CORRECTLY, for me.
    I hate to have to do the equivalent of "ENTER" 12 times,
    (and maybe miscount in the process, as recently happened when CLEF CHANGE was not available),
    landing-up who knows where.

2. CHANGE CLEF handles pretty much ALL the clefs which I've ever come across,
    which is a great help to me, as I battle figuring-out anything other than Treble and Bass.

3. NWC 2.5.5 handles user tools in a totally different way to NWC 2.1 - hence anybody who migrates from 2.1 to 2.5.5,
    and who has his/her own private user tools, would have to migrate those tools.
    That's where Rick's write-up comes in splendidly.

'K heb gezecht (Dutch for: "I've had my say".)