Special endings in master repeat problem?

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Special endings in master repeat problem?

17 years ago

Here's the situation. I have a master repeat section consisting of a chorus with two lyric lines and one special ending within a master repeat section. After the first special ending, but before the repeat, I need to insert a double bar to indicate the section divisions. (Going from a chorus to a verse.) The master repeat close then takes me back to the start of the chorus and then jumps to special ending two (Which occurs immediately after the master repeat close.) at the appropriate place within the chorus. The problem is that the special ending and repeat function will not function correctly with the double bar inserted at the appropriate place after special ending one but before the master repeat close. The only way I was able to get the structure to operate properly was to remove the double bar at the start of the verse and replace it with a single bar. It seems that I should be able to indicate sections (double bar) within this structure as I desire however, I am forced to use a single bar line between the musical sections. Is there some work around that I haven't been able to discover?

Re: Special endings in master repeat problem?

Reply #1 – 17 years ago

G'day Bruce,
you have correctly deduced the cause of your problem.

NWC assumes that any decorated barline indicates the finish of the special ending... This issue has cropped up before and IIRC the discussion was interesting...

See:
https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=5172
https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=5248.0
https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=5432.0
https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=5884.0

<edit> I sem to recall RickG using muted, headless Crotchet grace notes to create vertical lines (barlines???) - perhaps this might help - or you might be able to use another font to supply a useful vertical line to add as text to an existing barline...

I have actually been working on a barline replacement/overlay user tool but it is for trying to create "handwritten" barlines as an adjunct to my SwingDings font suite - it's on the back burner at the moment as I have other things I must concentrate on.

Re: Special endings in master repeat problem?

Reply #2 – 17 years ago

Thanks Lawrie

Toward the end of the topic 5172 thread -

Rick G. writes:
'The rule seems to be that if you want a decorated bar line in a special ending, copy the special ending immediately after the decorated bar line and make it invisible.'

To which you replied:
G'day Rick,
that's neat mate, works nicely.

I agree with you. This is a neat. The music prints and plays as it should.

I don't need to know why the decision was made by the software developers to treat any decorated bar line (double in my case) as the finish of a special ending. Rick's work around does the trick. I'm repeating it here for those who might be reading this thread and want, for whatever reason, to put a decorated bar in a special ending.

Re: Special endings in master repeat problem?

Reply #3 – 17 years ago

G'day Bruce,

Quote from: Bruce Minnick – 17 years ago

Rick G. writes:
'The rule seems to be that if you want a decorated bar line in a special ending, copy the special ending immediately after the decorated bar line and make it invisible.'

To which you replied:
G'day Rick,
that's neat mate, works nicely.

I agree with you. This is a neat. The music prints and plays as it should.

Thanks mate - I'd forgotten about that workaround - I redirected you without reading the thread very carefully (baaad Lawrie)

Re: Special endings in master repeat problem?

Reply #4 – 17 years ago

That's solved a problem I've had recently too.

Thanks Bruce, thanks Lawrie, thanks Rick.