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What happened to my last bars?
When I print the attached score, the last measure shows one staff only.
I didn't use any collapsible staff, so what?

Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #1
I've tried it (print preview only) and it works OK for me.  My printer driver for this test was PDF Creator...
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  • Lloyd
  • NWC2 User
Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #2
There's a transparent bar in meassure 39, on the "Harpe" Upper, just after the chord. IT'S A TRAP!!
This print failure often happens if one of the staves have more meassures than the rest. ;)

EDIT: Of course, it will print correctly if you delete this "extra" bar ^__^
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Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #3
There's a transparent bar in meassure 39, on the "Harpe" Upper, just after the chord.
I completely missed it! And I looked at the nwctxt too!
That's why I hate the things invisible in edit mode.  ;D
Thank you a lot, Lloyd.

Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #4
Flurmy, you wrote "That's why I hate the things invisible in edit mode. "

Have you tried changing the colour for hidden objects in the editor?  Go to Tools, Options, Color, and edit the active and inactive hidden object colours. 

Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #5
Flurmy, you wrote "That's why I hate the things invisible in edit mode. "

Have you tried changing the colour for hidden objects in the editor?  Go to Tools, Options, Color, and edit the active and inactive hidden object colours.
He's not talking about hidden objects (e.g. those with Visibility set to Never). He's talking about the Transparent bar line, which is truly invisible in the editor, regardless of the colors chosen for active and inactive hidden objects in Settings.  I have to agree with him; it can be tricky to find those bar lines during editing. The only way to tell they are there is on the bar counter in the top margin.

I just noticed he said "things" (plural) in his original message. What other things are completely invisible in edit mode? The only other thing I can think of is an "all spaces" text object with "Preserve Width" checked (which behaves sort of like a spacer).

Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #6
From the help text of my EditMark user object:
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A user object to add a dashed position mark and text that is only visible in the editor. This is especially useful for things that are not at all visible in NWC: Notes with blank heads and no stems, and transparent bars; but also for other editor-only remarks.
I didn't (then) think of the empty text with preserved width ...
H.M.
  • Last Edit: 2019-05-19 10:45 am by hmmueller

Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #7
Sorry, H.M., I forgot your plugin. I installed it then I forgot.

I could put an EditMark plugin at each staff signature but, if I got it right, the plugins have a finite span so, if the score is long, I must remember to add some more plugins...

Adding the plugin each and every time I work on a score is a burden.
Otherwise, to think adding the plugin I must at least suspect that there could be something invisible.
The problem is that, practically always, when I have to deal with something hidden in the editor it's because it's someone else's work.

A classic is importing from OCR.
The first thing I do is to run a tool like this to get rid of all the hidden notes inserted to have all the bars of equal length:
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php\php.exe scripts\adp_GlobalMod.php Note,Pos==0z DELETE
Why not simply use a hidden note?

Re: What happened to my last bars?
Reply #8
I use transparent/invisible barlines quite often.

E.G. when you want a key sig. change to appear at the end of a staff and force a break immediately after the sig.  The staff should be open ended so you could place a transparent bar line after the key sig. and force a system break on it.

Of course, you could also use a hidden barline to do this.  I just happen to find the transparent ones seem to be appropriate for this job.

I also use them to tie objects to (usually, but not always, text "At next note/bar") when I have trouble placing things using other methods.  I know a headless, muted, whole grace note would work too, but the barline appeals to me better and I don't risk issues with playback.

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#|Tonic:G
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-6
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-7
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-6
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Bar
|Key|Signature:Bb|Tonic:F
|Bar|Style:Transparent|SysBreak:Y
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:4
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Bar
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab|Tonic:E
|Bar|SysBreak:Y|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:0
|Bar|Style:SectionClose|SysBreak:Y
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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