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Triplet display buglet...

I stumbled on the following construct while updating an old swing piece I'd some time ago.  This is from a hidden staff to give the swing to a straight tempo bar...

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-8,-4,-1,1,3
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Chord|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-8,-4,-1,1,3|Opts:Stem=Down
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-8,-4,-1,1,3|Opts:Stem=Up
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-8,-4,-1,1,3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Note how the triplet "bracket" crosses the stem of the chord that is the first part of the triplet in the first 2 ...

Swap the chord and the rest and it's OK - the last 2 show it even though the values are reversed...
I plays 'Bones, crumpets, coronets, floosgals, youfonymums 'n tubies.

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #1 –
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|RestChord|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,VertOffset=2047|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-8,-4,-1,1,3
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-8,-4,-1,1,3
|RestChord|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Up,VertOffset=2047|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-8,-4,-1,1,3
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,VertOffset=2047|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-8,-4,-1,1,3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

First triplet is a possible fix.

Second triplet banishes the problem altogether, although intriguingly no-one wanted to comment on this in my recent 'Tips and Tricks' submission. :-(

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #2 –
G'day Peter,
hmm, but look what happens when the stem direction is "correct" for the chord (rest is now at -2047 and stem Down)

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|RestChord|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,VertOffset=-2047|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-8,-4,-1,1,3
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:-8,-4,-1,1,3
|RestChord|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Down,VertOffset=-2047|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-8,-4,-1,1,3
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,VertOffset=-2047|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-8,-4,-1,1,3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

I do think this is a bug to be fixed rather than use a work around for...
I plays 'Bones, crumpets, coronets, floosgals, youfonymums 'n tubies.

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #3 –
...and maybe while the bug is being fixed we can gain some control over the placement of the triplet bracket. There have been many times I've wanted to shift it around or move it from the stems to the heads to avoid conflicts with lyrics, or tempo marks, or slurs, or....

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #4 –
I think this is a recent bug. Surely, simple things like:
Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:0
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:0
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet=End
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:0
|Rest|Dur:Half,Triplet=End
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-1
|Rest|Dur:8th,Triplet=End
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet
|Rest|Dur:4th,Triplet=End
|Note|Dur:4th,Triplet=First|Pos:-1
|Rest|Dur:Half,Triplet=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
would have been noticed long ago.

Selecting all, and pressing the + and - keys (within limits) reveals more examples.
If the above is exported to NWC 1.75, the problem goes away.
Registered user since 1996

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #5 –
I am looking into this.

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #6 –
The attachment is a workaround until this gets fixed.

Rather nasty. Make the rest into a Muted, blank notehead Whole Note RestChord and fiddle with the note Position and VertOffset of the RestChord. Playback is the same. If there are Lyrics, set the RestChord(s) to Lyric:Never

Registered user since 1996

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #7 –
The problems with triplet bracket placement when starting or ending with a rest will be addressed in NWC 2.1 Beta 6.

Re: Triplet display buglet...

Reply #8 –
Quote from: NoteWorthy Online –
The problems with triplet bracket placement when starting or ending with a rest will be addressed in NWC 2.1 Beta 6.
The problems with triplet bracket placement when starting or ending with a rest has been addressed in NWC 2.1 Beta 6.

Sometimes it pays to reopen old cans of worms.
Registered user since 1996