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Different Notes on the same bar

On problem I have had is getting different notes to be put on the same bar same stave. I have been able to do a chord but one piece I have require the first beat with a 1/2 note on the top and a 1/4 on the bottom That was easy. This was followed however by a 1/2 note on the bottom and then a 1/4 note on the top which was following the first half note on top I was unable get do this.

eg [ 1/2 1/4 ] [ 1/4 1/2 ]

These are all on the same bar and same staff. Does anyone have and answer for this.

Re: Different Notes on the same bar

Reply #1 –
I think I understand your problem, and I know a solution but this solution is not very elegant.

The problem is the following: when you try to add the second quarter note on the top, this one follows the first quarter note instead of following the first half note.

The bad solution is the following: add a quarter rest ! The procedure is then: (1) do the initial chord, (2) add a quarter rest after the chord, (3) Ctrl-add the second half note, (4) add the second quarter note.

But the good solution is the one proposed by Andrew: use tied quarter notes.

I hope this helps.

Olivier.

Re: Different Notes on the same bar

Reply #2 –
Howard,

I'm not sure I understand your problem. To make notes of different lengths in a two note chord, just make the bottom one's tail point down, and the top one's point up. This normally is dealt with automagically.

wrt: [1/2 1/4] [1/4 1/2], how can the second pair be a chord if one is being played 1/2 note after the 1st chord, and one being played 1/4 note after.

If what you mean is [1/2 1/4] [1/2] [1/4], (which is what I tried and I think I now understand, you want the total length to be 3, not 4, right?) why not use tied notes? It may even be easier to read.

Hope I'm on the right track.

Andrew

Re: Different Notes on the same bar

Reply #3 –
Howard,

I'm not sure I understand your problem. To make notes of different lengths in a two note chord, just make the bottom one's tail point down, and the top one's point up. This normally is dealt with automagically.

wrt: [1/2 1/4] [1/4 1/2], how can the second pair be a chord if one is being played 1/2 note after the 1st chord, and one being played 1/4 note after.

If what you mean is [1/2 1/4] [1/2] [1/4], (which is what I tried and I think I now understand, you want the total length to be 3, not 4, right?) why not use tied notes? It may even be easier to read.

Hope I'm on the right track.

Andrew

Re: Different Notes on the same bar

Reply #4 –
Yes my message did not come up like I had planed it I orginally wante 3/4 times in the case where [1/2 1/4] [1/4 1/2 ]

both on the same bar and same staff. I thought I would try this again to see if it would come through correctly.

Re: Different Notes on the same bar

Reply #5 –
I made an attempt and it does not work. What I was looking for is a 3 beat bar. On the first beat is a 1/2 note on the tope of the chord and a 1/4 note on the bottom of the chord. The second beat has a 1/2 note on the bottom while the first 1/2 note carries through. The third beat has a 1/4 on the top while the second beats half note carries through. This was not possible with that last beat it adds another beat to the bar. I hoep that explains the situation.

Re: Different Notes on the same bar

Reply #6 –
I believe I had the same problem a few months back. The solution I hit upon was basically what I think Andrew was suggesting.

Instead of the [1/2 1/4] [1/4 1/2] combo, you need something more along the lines of [1/4(tie) 1/4] [1/4(ends tie) 1/4(tie)] [1/4 1/4(ends tie)].

I didn't think it looked as nice, but it's probably more a matter of taste than anything.

-Ron

Re: Different Notes on the same bar

Reply #7 –
Yes I think that would be the answer althought it does not look as nice. Thanks