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how do you do this?

how do you do this?

Re: how do you do this?

Reply #1 –
Two options:
a) layering - I wouldn't bother with that for this level of chord structure, but if there's a lot of difficult chordal structures involved then that's a different story.
b) in staff chords like this:
Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5,-3|Color:3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:n0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Color:3
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-5,-3|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:0|Color:3
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-5,-3|Opts:Stem=Down|Color:3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Color:3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
If you click "Select" then press <Ctrl+C> the code above will copy to the clip board.  You can then paste that into a staff in NWC V2.0 or later.

When editing, chord members can be created with <Ctrl+Enter>.  Position the first note, press <Enter>, position the second note of the chord and press<Ctrl+Enter>, and so on for each chord member.  A search of the help system for "chord member command" is useful.  The section is quite comprehensive.
I plays 'Bones, crumpets, coronets, floosgals, youfonymums 'n tubies.

Re: how do you do this?

Reply #2 –
Lawrie, you forgot a detail.
You can do this:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5,-3|Color:3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:n0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Color:3
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-5,-3|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:0^|Color:3
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5,-3|Color:3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Color:3
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
or this:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5,-3|Color:3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:n0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Color:3
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-5,-3|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:0|Color:3
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5,-3|Color:3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Color:3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Re: how do you do this?

Reply #3 –
Oops, your second example is the one I should have posted - sorry 'bout that Marinoger
Teach me to rush things and not check properly  :(
I plays 'Bones, crumpets, coronets, floosgals, youfonymums 'n tubies.

Re: how do you do this?

Reply #4 –
Chiming in ... Flurmy's lower solution is the "best one", in that it creates exactly what you want, with the right number of beats.

In general, a complex voice sequence of overlapping rhythm can often be written with rest chords of the smallest common note length. Here is an example that shows what's possible and what not (see also attached files). In the attached NWC file and image, the upper staff shows the intended result, the lower one shows the rest chords with visible rests so that the "construction plan" is visible:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-6
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-3,-1
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-6
|Spacer|Width:200
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up|Visibility:Never
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2,0
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2,0^
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:16th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-3^
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3,-1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:b-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

The first measure works out nicely. If one uses only rest-chords with eighth rests, an additional spacer is necessary for the hidden eighth rest. A better option would be to use a quarter-note rest-chord for the dotted quarter C.

In the second measure, the middle voice should also go to the F, which would therefore need an additional (short) upward stem: This is not possible in NWC, which limits chords to two stems. For three or more voices on a single staff that show some independent voice leading, it is therefore better to use, right form the start, multiple staves with layering.

H.M.