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Accidental Notes

Is this a bug or spec?
When put a natural, it should effect only the same octave at a bar.  But in
NWC, it effect ALL octaves.

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Text|Text:"F#"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:8
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First|Color:6
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Text|Text:"\"F-natural\""|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:-7
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:n4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam|Color:1
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Text|Text:"This (green one) should be \"F#\"."|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:11
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam|Color:2
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Rest|Dur:Half
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Also, featured request is:
Accidental's property:
Normal; Courtesty (with parentheses); Invisible;
On the note (used for condense space; such as full score)

Re: Accidental Notes

Reply #1 –
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Is this a bug or spec?

Both, I'm afraid! But requests to have it sorted out have gone unheeded.

Re: Accidental Notes

Reply #2 –
It's one of the areas where some of the authorities say one thing and other authorities say the opposite.  I suspect the majority state that an accidental only affects the octave it's written.  But to be kind to your readers, it can be good to have a courtesty accidental in any other octave, making clear what's correct.  Of course, this just converts the problem into a different one, as NWC doesn't yet have courtesy accidentals, (except as text).

Re: Accidental Notes

Reply #3 –
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Of course, this just converts the problem into a different one, as NWC doesn't yet have courtesy accidentals, (except as text).

...which, of course, have to be moved manually when transposing.

Re: Accidental Notes

Reply #4 –
Don't forget that you can trick NWC into putting in courtesy accidentals by adding a hidden key signature (just remember to change it back with another hidden key signature).

Example:  In the key of C you want to have a reminder for the B natural, simply add a hidden F key signature & NWC won't remove the natural - since it now serves a purpose.

Re: Accidental Notes

Reply #5 –
Usually the reminder is needed for just a note or, at most, some notes in a bar.
In that case I usually put a hidden muted grace note with a different accidental just before the note with the reminder.
Like that:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:C|Tonic:C
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:b0|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:n0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Re: Accidental Notes

Reply #6 –
You can force an accidental just by adding it to the note. It will display without the need for a grace note. The grace note helps when auditing accidentals.

If you do not need the audit tool, a true courtesy accidental can be placed as text, as shown:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Text|Text:"(f)"|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:3|Wide:Y
|Spacer|Width:50
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

So, your example:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:C|Tonic:C
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Text|Text:"(e)"|Font:StaffSymbols|Pos:0|Wide:Y
|Spacer|Width:25
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
 

Re: Accidental Notes

Reply #7 –
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The grace note helps when auditing accidentals.

Yes indeed.
But also in case of transposing.