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Smallness

I'm not... quite sure how you'd fix this, but...

I'm preparing a vocal score of a cut song from Yeomen of the Guard of appropriate layout to allow it to be cut to size and added into the standard score. As such, I'm trying to imitate Chappell's use of fonts and so on, with the exception of making the lyric font a little bigger, at the request of others.

As the score at a few points changes the left hand to the treble clef, I'm following the chappell custom of using a smaller clef when indicating the changes, hiding the clef that actually changes them. However, this means that not only the clef at the point of change disappears... but all clefs at the start of lines from then on.

Now, I DO have to edit the score a bit anyway, so it's not that much of a problem, but should it be beer to have a null-clef to add if you wanted to remove the clefs at the start of systems?

Re: Smallness

Reply #1
I'm not sure I actually understand your situation, but here are a couple of ideas:

If you set one of the User fonts to NWCSTDA and adjust the size, you can use the letters a   and b to make text-based treble and bass clefs of whatever size you like to insert without changing the pitch.  I'm pretty sure some of the other user fonts have clefs as well.

Perhaps the better approach is to insert a real treble clef before the phrase and then put a bass clef immediately after.  That way the correct clef will show at the beginning of each line and your playback will be fine too.

After writing the above, it occurred to me that your problem is a hidden clef preventing the clef sign from showing at the beginning of all the following systems. 

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Clef|Type:Treble|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Text|Text:"invisible clef here"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar|SysBreak:Y
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar|SysBreak:Y
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End


Try forcing a break and adding a visible clef at the beginning of the next line:
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Clef|Type:Treble|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Text|Text:"invisible clef here"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar|SysBreak:Y
|Clef|Type:Treble|Visibility:Always
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar|SysBreak:Y
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Bar|SysBreak:Y
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Re: Smallness

Reply #2
To make a shorter example, if you set User 1 to NWC2SDTA, size 14, you could do the following:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Text|Text:"a"|Font:User1|Pos:-1|Wide:Y
|Clef|Type:Treble|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Text|Text:"b"|Font:User1|Pos:1|Wide:Y
|Clef|Type:Bass|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
(I can't get the bass clef perfectly lined up.)

Re: Smallness

Reply #3
Maybe I've mentioned before, it would be same topic.

Same situation for changing clef, such as Treble to Bass, or B to T.
Smaller clef can be displayed with text, hiding original clef.  But from
that point, all clef on the top disappeared.  If using Force System Break,
how can I adjust the length of each bar.  Looks much tricky.

NoteWorthy's score editor is text-editor-like.  So I think it's a bit
difficult to add graphic enhancement fot drawing score.

 

Re: Smallness

Reply #4
Force System Break will alter the length of all the bars it affects, but if you place it approximately where the system break would be anyway, the distortion won't be much. 

Then when you add a real clef immediately after the break, at the beginning of the next line, it will be displayed on all the following lines of that staff.

The problem with using a text clef is the vertical position, but it looked do-able when I tried it just now.