Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... 2005-08-12 02:22 pm Hi folks,I am new to noteworthy composer. Everything is quite clear for me, but I can't figure out how to place a whole note(say a C) and a quarter note(say E) on the same vertical line(on the same staff). I know how to make a chord (with CRTL-ENTER) but this only works for notes with the same duration.Please help me Thanks in advancePiet Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #1 – 2005-08-12 02:28 pm You can combine a whole note and a quarter note to form a split stem chord. Simply add the second note as a chord member. The resulting chord will behave like the smaller duration note when it comes to play back sequencing and print alignment and formatting.For advanced multi-voicing needs, you can also use staff layering (see faq #24). Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #2 – 2005-08-12 02:45 pm Keep an eye on the stem directions when you enter notes. Press Shift-Up or Shift-Down repeatedly to see what I mean.When there is no default stem direction, entering a chord in this way works without a problem:1 Enter Up Up 3 Ctrl-Enterbut this works, too:3 Enter Up Up 1 Ctrl-EnterBut if StemUp is active, it will not. Remember that a whole note has a stem direction, even if it does not have a stem. Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #3 – 2005-08-12 02:55 pm Thanks a lot, I did the job with layering. But I think it is not a nice sollution because now I have to set serveral properties like dynamics for two layers at a time, although conceptually it is one layer(a piano righthand).Maybe something for the new version Piet Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #4 – 2005-08-12 02:59 pm Given your original question, you probably did not need to use layering. Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #5 – 2005-08-12 04:50 pm Well Mr Weatherman, you can enter the notes as you wish! Have you tried my suggestion? It does not need layering, and it saves you the double administration. (Sorry - don't speak Frisian) Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #6 – 2005-08-12 06:09 pm Aaaah thanks a lot Rob... that StemUp was the thing that prohibited me to make the chord of notes with different duration. Now I can throw away the extra staff... btw take some lessons in Frisian it is such a beautifull language Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #7 – 2005-08-12 08:08 pm You are not Piet Paulusma who is featuring this week on the cover of the NCRV Guide? Anyway, glad to be able to help. Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #8 – 2005-08-12 08:40 pm No i'm not, but I hate it when people search for my my real name in google and find my postings Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #9 – 2005-08-26 01:55 pm Hello people,I have a similar problem like Piet, only my problems is with rests.Say I would like to let 3 people sing in different heights and starting on different counts in one measure. So singer no. 1 starts with a whole note on count 1 (of 4/4) lets say a C, singer 2 has 2 counts rest and then a half note (say an E), and singer 3 has 3 counts rest and then a quarternote (say a G). The problem I run into is that I cant build a chord with notes and rests so that the rests are visible.....Has anyone a clue how to do this; eg. does anyone know what I mean :-)Thanks for any help, greatly appreciated!!Jan Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #10 – 2005-08-26 05:32 pm Chording rests and notes is no problem. Start with the rest (and keep in mind that open notes _and_ rests have a stem direction!) and now add the note with Ctrl-Enter.What you want cannot be done, I think, on one bar. You will have to use layering, and with layering it is no problem at all. What you can do is this: start with half a rest, then chord it with a whole note (c in your example), then enter a quarter note that is tied to another quarter note (e), and chord this last note with a g. It sounds the way you want it to sound. But layering looks prettier. Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #11 – 2005-08-26 05:37 pm You might be able to do some of this using rests in chords, with a stem up setting and notes stem down, but it doesn't seem to work when with a quarter rest and a quarter note. If I recall, rests in a chord have to be smaller than the notes, so I didn't play around a lot with it to try to get it to work.I can think of two ways to achieve your goal:1/ Use a text based quarter rest sign found in various user fonts available on the Scriptorium;or, much quicker/easier,2/ Try 3 layered staffs, adjusting the vertical position of the rests to get them out of the way. Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #12 – 2005-08-26 05:38 pm Sorry, Rob, your message wasn't up when I wrote mine. Didn't mean to intrude. Quote Selected
Re: Whole note and a quarternote at the same vertical line... Reply #13 – 2005-08-26 05:43 pm Our answers both help, I think. Intrusion (if any) no problem. Let's see if we have been able to help Jan. Quote Selected
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