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Tie direction

Well, here I sit at 2am CST on a Saturday trying to coerce Nora Jones' Don't Know Why into something I can play for a wedding next Saturday and I run into this:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Dynamic|Style:mf|Pos:-9
|Note|Dur:Half,Dotted|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:0^,4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"47"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:10|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:4
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End,Tie=Downward
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:b-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:0
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"48"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:10|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th,Dotted
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End,Tie=Downward
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-6,#-3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-7^,n-3^
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:|Dur2:4th|Pos2:0
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:5^,7^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:5,7
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
I'd like to make the tie in measure 46 go upward so it looks like the flat applies to "A" and not "B". Ditto in 47 so that it doesn't run through the sharp, but Public Preview 1m (Windows 98), won't let me.  I could probably use layer, but I don't feel that I should be required to.  The program should let put the tie where I want it and stop trying to analyze my work. Any ideas?
Registered user since 1996

Re: Tie direction

Reply #1 –
Looks like a small bug in the new tie function.

Try using layered staffs as a workaround.  Your first staff will be  modified to take out the two ties you mentioned:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Dynamic|Style:mf|Pos:-9
|Note|Dur:Half,Dotted|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:0^,4^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"47"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:10|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:4
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End,Tie=Downward
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:b-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:0
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Text|Text:"48"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:10|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th,Dotted
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-3
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End,Tie=Downward
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-6,#-3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-7^,n-3^
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:|Dur2:4th|Pos2:0
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:5^,7^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:5,7
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Then your second staff is just:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble|Visibility:Never
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb|Visibility:Never
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4|Visibility:Never
|Dynamic|Style:mf|Pos:-9|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:Whole|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,StemLength=0,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Down,StemLength=0,Beam=End,Tie=Upward
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:b-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:0
|Rest|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Text|Text:"48"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:10|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th,Dotted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Down,StemLength=0,Tie=Upward
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-6,#-3
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:Whole|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
You can see I've reversed the stem directions of the offending notes in the bottom staff, and given them a stem length of zero.

Re: Tie direction

Reply #2 –
On further reflection, this appears to be a bug. 1m won't let me change the tie direction of any note, only chords.  Ver 1.75b does not have this behavior. I tried to roll back to a previous version, but got stuck at  1d.  The hazards of beta testing ... now I have to reconfigure my toolbars again.
Registered user since 1996

Re: Tie direction

Reply #3 –
Rick, in the NWC2 newsgroup forum Eric acknowledges that this is a bug in Preview 1m and that he is working on a fix for.

Re: Tie direction

Reply #4 –
My tie direction is always down... but, then, what do I know? I hardly ever wear a suit!

Re: Tie direction

Reply #5 –
This issue is fixed in the latest release...
 

Re: Tie direction

Reply #6 –
Thanks
Registered user since 1996