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lyrics?

I am writing a piece that has no actual repeat bars, only D.S. Al coda, to coda, coda, and fine. This piece has lyrics and one line is reading well as it should but I am not able to make the second line play after the D.S. The first line plays instead of the second. What am I doing wrong. Can someone help me? Or explain it to me as if I did not have lyrics and wanted to, so I can start fresh.

Re: lyrics?

Reply #1 –
The answer is to pad with underscores (see the setup pane in the lyric editor).

In a new staff, enter this rhythm:

Half note
Half note
Double bar
Segno sign
Half note
Half note
Bar line
Quarter note
Quarter note
Half note
Flow direction "to coda"
Double bar line
Half note
Half note
Bar line
Quarter note
Dotted half note
Flow direction "d.s.al coda"
Double bar line
Coda sign
Half note
Half note
Bar line
Half note
Half note
Bar line
Whole note.

Now, create 2 lyrics.  You'll need to pad the beginning of each lyric with underscores, and in Lyric 2, add underscores in the middle so that the last part of the verse skips the music you won't be playing twice.

Use this sample as Lyric 1:
_ _ This is ly-ric one
This is the bridge

Use this sample as Lyric 2:
_ _ This is Lyric two _ _ _ _ _ Oh yes, Ly-ric Two

Hope this works for you.

Re: lyrics?

Reply #2 –
OK, well I think I did what I was told, but the second lyric line will not play as the melody plays for the second time. Did I miss anything? I have tried my piece with repeat bars and I want the lyrics to follow the same rule. Does it? or should I just stick with repeat bars? The piece is quite long and I would prefer the “D.S. al Coda ” then repeat signs!

Re: lyrics?

Reply #3 –
You can always fake it.  Put in the repeat bars, but set their visibility to "never".  Then add the D. C. al Coda as a text item.  That way NWC will see what it likes, and the viewer will see what she likes.

Re: lyrics?

Reply #4 –
Cyril's solution works.

I think this problem is caused because, unlike the master repeat open or master repeat close bar lines, the flow direction command doesn't trigger a shift from one lyric to the next.

One for the wish list.  Funny that a year of beta testing of NWC2 missed it.

Re: lyrics?

Reply #5 –
By the way, my apologies for not understanding the question the first time through.  I don't normally use lyrics, and I didn't realize they highlighted as they scroll.  I assumed you were talking about placement of parts of the lyrics at different parts of the staff.

Re: lyrics?

Reply #6 –
Flow direction repeats will occasionally not highlight the lyrics quite the way you think they should. There is not any good way around this. When lyric highlights are the most important thing to you, you will sometimes have to flatten your work (remove the redirections and rewrite the work linearly) so that the correct highlight is guaranteed.

Re: lyrics?

Reply #7 –
Well, thanks everyone, For all the help! I finally added two staffs layered on top of another, which includes the same melody, the top: without the lyrics but since it is the one seen, With the D.S. and all that. The other one: with repeat bars as Cyril suggested, never visible (repeat bars) but with the lyric lines. The lyric lines actually follow the score. Or so it seems to. But it works! Thanks! David, Cyril, and NoteWorthy Online.

The piece is a Latin piece so it is fairly long before it repeats, I’ll see if I can put it up in the scriptorium. Thanks again!
Gracias.

Clement
 

Re: lyrics?

Reply #8 –
It took me a while before I learned that the underscore-trick is not the only way to avoid assigning a syllable to a note. Every note has a property, and if you highlight the note and press Alt-Enter (or right mouse key) you can set 'Lyric syllable' to 'Never'. This is handy when you have melismas (e.g. 4 eighth notes and one syllable), so instead of entering 4 underscores in the lyrics, you can highlight the 2nd, 3rd and 4th note, and set Lyric syllable to Never. And hey presto, it's gone.

Whatever takes your fancy. A slur also changes the behaviour: in the same example, highlighting the first 3 notes and pressing ; changes the 4 notes into a slur, which also leaves 1 syllable to the foursome. Needless to say (but I say it anyway) a tie does the same.
So: underscore, Lyric syllable or tie: they all help to match syllables to the notes. Enjoy.