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Tie alignments

In a choral piece in choir, I have come across a situation like this:

Staff one: (Soprano 1 staff, layered with next staff)

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,VertOffset=3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Downward
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Downward
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Downward
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Downward
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:VertOffset=3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:b-4|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Staff 2: (Soprano 2 staff, layered with previous staff)

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:-1^|Opts:ArticulationsOnStem
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Half,Dotted|Pos:-1^|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
(make sure to layer the two staves together)

Now, in the music, the ties on the bottom staff are pushed downward in such a way as to avoid passing through the notes on the upper staff.  I tried faking it with slurs for the visual, but there wasn't any way I could find to break the slur at the center note to give the impression of a tie.  Is there any way to manipulate the ties so that they don't cross over the notes?  This would be nice to know.

Thanks,

Bruce R. Kyte

Re: Tie alignments

Reply #1 –
This was one of the first situations that I tried to solve, back when NWC2 was in pre-public beta test.

The solution involves using a layered staff, which contains the notes needed to anchor your ties (slurs), but does not contain any intervening notation that displaces the ties (slurs) to undesired locations. Or, you can intentionally displace them with fake objects.

It is possible to mute the layered notes and hide them (if necessary, invisible heads and short stems) so that they serve merely as anchors for what will otherwise be a "free" tie (slur). I'm not at my own computer now, or I'd display a clip. But I think you can figure out what to do.

Incidentally, I have suggested that "free anchors" be added to NWC2, for the purpose of manipulating things such as slurs, without the need to do fancy layering.
 

Re: Tie alignments

Reply #2 –
Picking up on Robert's method, just copy the second staff notes to a third to-be-layered staff.  Move them down a bit.  Use the note properties feature (ctrl E) to change stem length to zero, hide the leger lines, and mute the notes, and of course, as Robert says, make all the notes headless.

The only remaining wrinkle is to hide the dot on the dotted half note.  To do that, just undot it, and add a hidden quarter rest after it.