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NWC to Midi to WAV with balance

Hi
I'm a long term user of NWC but primarily for visual ie transposition of classical stuff for my pianist.  But am now creating rehearsal CDs for a musical theatre chorus.  I have input the chorus pieces into NWC with a separate line for every part and what I now want to do is create an Audio CD file (ie WAV) that has a staff of my choice on one channel on the Hi-Fi and the remainder of the parts plus piano score on the other.  I know how to convert to midi by just a 'save as'(using Midi 1) and I can convert the ensuing midi file to a wav file and then burn to CD but I end up with everything on only one channel ie the recording is not even stereo.  Am I doing something obvious incorrectly? I know I need to know more on the audio side but time is of the essence for CD production .  Suggestions much appreciated.

Cheers

Janene

Re: NWC to Midi to WAV with balance

Reply #1 –
"Staff of choice on one channel...."
Do you mean one staff output panned hard left and the rest panned hard right?
That's how you need to record the MIDI file to wave.
Pan the tracks before recording and make sure you record in stereo.
There are no channels in audio only the stereo position.
I'm guessing that for rehearsal the artist will need to be able to turn down the volume on either the left or right stereo pan to eliminate the solo or the backing as required.

Re: NWC to Midi to WAV with balance

Reply #2 –
Janene, I do this all the time and you have so set the pan to say 1 for one part and the other 3 parts to 127 then you will get "part-predominant" tracks(F2 \Midi). You will also need to drop the volume on the 3 part side to say 40 each. Just experiment until your volume levels are correct because not all home players have a balance control. Also if you are not aware, when you save as 'Midi' no holds (fermatas) or breath marks are acknowledged, so you have to'cheat' in preparing the score by putting extra notes with ties or extra rests to get the effect you want. Noteworthy does not mind if there are extra notes etc in a measure (bar).

Re: NWC to Midi to WAV with balance

Reply #3 –
Thanks Iluccy - I now have a lovely midi that has part predominance and balance.  Unfortunately despite my best efforts my Midi to wav converter insists on remixing to stereo but the volume is still altered and with judicious use of instrumentation it will be fine as a rehearsal aid for the chorus.  I suspect that to maintain the midi properties I will need to record the midi to wav rather than convert but I will play round with that later.

Thanks

Janene

Re: NWC to Midi to WAV with balance

Reply #4 –
A work around exists, I think, if you have Creative Wave Studio (came with my Soundblaster Live! card).  (If you don't have Soundblaster, you might have a wave studio type of program by a different name.)

Open Noteworthy and CWS at the same time.  I think you should make sure to have a very short chord on all staffs at the beginning of the midi file.  Eventually you will get rid of it, but it will serve as a visible cue when you do the next things I describe.

Mute all staffs except the one you want to record on the left channel.  Open a new wav file in CWS, start recording in CWS to "record," then play back the staff in NWC.  The sound will be captured as a wav file.

When, open and start to record a new wav file, and go back to NWC.  Unmute the other staffs and mute the one you already recorded, then play back.

When finished, exit NWC.

You will now have two wav files open in CWS.  Save them with unique file names, then create a new one again.  This will be your target file.  Copy and paste mix the recording from the first source file to the left track of the target file, and do the same from the second source file to the right track of the target.  Use the short chord I mentioned above to line up the recordings.  Play back to see if you've done it right, then simply edit out the short chord.  Save your file, and you should have channel separation.

Not perfect, but I hope it works.
 

Re: NWC to Midi to WAV with balance

Reply #5 –
Use Timidity!  This tool is great for converting from MIDI to WAV.  There are a number of posts in the forums already about it, but it's definitely the easiest way to go.