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problem with sustained passing tones

hello

this little problem happens when i used a chromatic run (ex. C-C#-D) with tied whole notes. the tones still sound after the bar ends, yielding tonal clusters--beautiful, but not wanted in the current piece. i tried placing an eighth rest at the ends of bars to stop the note, but it still doesn't work.
can anyone help me out on this?

thanks much

Re: problem with sustained passing tones

Reply #1 –
you have to specify all the notes with the accidental you want.
You wont see the # or b on the "tied-on" notes. but if you highlight the note, you can check if the # or b button is active in the toolbar.

Re: problem with sustained passing tones

Reply #2 –
Actually, with the latest "Web Update" to version 1.70 you will see the accidentals on notes with incoming ties. They'll appear in the "Hidden Notation" color (gray by default).

THe only time you really need to specify an accidental on the destination note is when the tie crosses a barline. On ties within a measure, the normal rules for accidentals apply and the second note will inherit the accidental specified for the first note (unless, of course, you've specified a *different* accidental on the second note).

Re: problem with sustained passing tones

Reply #3 –
hi again
thanks for the advice. the problem is not with the accidentals, it is with the playback. i don't have accidentals on tied notes actually.
let me describe the situation: what i have is a note(B) sustained over two bars with a tie, that note flattened(Bb) for one bar, and then the next note (A) sustained with a tie over two bars. the track will stop if i mute everything else. when i play the track with the other tracks though, this track will drone on indefinitely even though i don't have anything else after.

Re: problem with sustained passing tones

Reply #4 –
What the other users meant by a problem with accidentals is not with your notation, but with a "feature" of MIDI synthesis. If a note has an accidental and is tied to another note, the accidental'd note will sustain forever until it encounters another note with the same accidental.

To (hopefully) solve your problem, highlight the second B (the note that is tied from the first) and see if there is an accidental on it -- the toolbar should highlight either a sharp or flat, but you probably can't see it actually written out on the staff.

Either that or you have a sustain pedal notation on some other track that is on the same channel?

-j

Re: problem with sustained passing tones

Reply #5 –
joe,

thanks for your interest and reply.
with regard to the notes, the note that received the accidental is not tied. the only tied notes are the ones that are in the key.

this is a most peculiar situation.

norb

Re: problem with sustained passing tones

Reply #6 –
Send me your file, and a reference to this thread, and I will figure out what is causing your problem.
 

Re: problem with sustained passing tones

Reply #7 –
From memory: The cause of your problem is a note tie that extends to a mismatched note pitch. I think it was a C# note (in key) to a C natural note two bars later. If you upgrade to NWC 1.70 + Web Update 8, you will be able to see the natural sign on the note that receives the tie.

If you still can't find it, feel free to send me the file again and I will give precise bar numbers.