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Title: grace note slurring problem
Post by: tsoilihoi on 2020-04-14 03:55 pm
In Ave Maria by Shubert, I want to slur from the quarter note to the two sixteenth grace notes...
However when I highlight the D to just before the d grace note the slur jumps and extends from the D to the Middle C.
I need to constrain it to the Ded  as in grace note problem 1.jpg  not like the grace note problem 2.
Title: Re: grace note slurring problem
Post by: melismata on 2020-04-14 04:45 pm
You have to highlight the last-but-one note.  Highlight up to the E and the slur will link the D (of the grace note) as well.  Why this should be so is a mystery to me but that's how it works.
Title: Re: grace note slurring problem
Post by: Mike Shawaluk on 2020-04-14 04:49 pm
I think the problem he's having is that the slur won't end on the 2nd grace note, because of the way slurs behave in NWC. That is, a slur which starts on a regular note must end on a regular note; a slur that starts on a grace note must end on a grace note.

The solution is to use the Slur.ms object:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|User|Slur.ms|Pos:-6|Span:3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Grace|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Slur|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Title: Re: grace note slurring problem
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2020-04-17 08:30 am
That is, a slur which starts on a regular note must end on a regular note; a slur that starts on a grace note must end on a grace note.

Not quite. You will find that a slur which starts on a grace note can end on a regular note.  Why you shouldn't be able to force the other direction - who knows. As well as that, a slur that comes from a grace note and ends on a regular note will also allow another slur to start on that regular note.  So the regular note then becomes the end point of a slur and start point of another.  Shame it cant be done if the end point slur comes from a slur starting from a regular note.

However, in this case
The solution is to use the Slur.ms object:

Agreed.