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Title: Another alignment problem
Post by: Flurmy on 2011-09-19 12:08 pm
In the attached file I was able to fit the glissando mark in the first part of the score.
Near the end, the notes in the second staff (contrappunto) don't allow the same trick to work.
Any idea?

N.B. NWC 2.5 file.
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Flurmy on 2011-09-20 06:29 am
Silly me!
I was trying to put the first note closer to the glissando sign (or vice versa).
The easiest way is instead to add space after the sign to balance the distances like that:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|MPC|Controller:pitch|Style:Linear Sweep|TimeRes:Sixteenth|SweepRes:128|Pt1:0,8192|Pt2:2,8192|Pt3:2,0|Pos:8|Wide:Y
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up
|Spacer|Width:0
|Text|Text:"g"|Font:User1|Pos:-4|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|MPC|Controller:pitch|Style:Absolute|TimeRes:Quarter|SweepRes:128|Pt1:0,8192|Pos:8|Wide:Y
|Spacer|Width:110
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Bah! Forgive me.
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2011-09-20 07:10 am
Ah! ,  now I understand what you were asking.  I looked yesterday and didn't see the glissando sign (I was expecting the other one - the wavy one). When I didn't see it in your score, I was going to come back here and ask where you meant.

Never mind, you answered your own posting.
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Flurmy on 2011-09-21 12:14 pm
Well, maybe the question isn't as stupid as it seemed... or I'm more stupid than I think.

Look at the following example:
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!NoteWorthyComposer(2.0)
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:18|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:1|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:Plain|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:Staff Italic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:11|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Staff Bold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:9|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Staff Lyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Title Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Small Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 1|Typeface:"MusikDingsSans"|Size:18|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.78|Top:1.78|Right:1.78|Bottom:1.78|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Right Hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Style:Upper Grand Staff|Layer:N|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Acoustic Grand Piano"|Patch:0|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:0
|Text|Text:"f"|Font:User1|Pos:-6|Wide:Y
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Left Hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Style:Lower Grand Staff|Layer:N|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Acoustic Grand Piano"|Patch:0|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Bass
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2011-09-21 12:43 pm
One of these two options ?

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!NoteWorthyComposer(2.0)
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:18|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:1|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:Plain|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:Staff Italic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:11|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Staff Bold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:9|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Staff Lyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Title Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Small Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 1|Typeface:"MusikDingsSans"|Size:18|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 2|Typeface:"MusikDingsSans"|Size:48|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.78|Top:1.78|Right:1.78|Bottom:1.78|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Right Hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Style:Upper Grand Staff|Layer:N|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Acoustic Grand Piano"|Patch:0|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:0
|Text|Text:"f    "|Font:User1|Pos:-8|Justify:Right|Placement:AsStaffSignature
|Text|Text:"n"|Font:User2|Pos:-10|Justify:Right|Placement:AsStaffSignature
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Left Hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Style:Lower Grand Staff|Layer:N|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Acoustic Grand Piano"|Patch:0|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Bass
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Flurmy on 2011-09-21 01:27 pm
Not really.

My idea was simply to "bend down" the B (at the end of a theme) then start the new theme with the C, not to glide from B to C.

In this case, if I got it right, the glissando must be almost attached to the B and well inclined downward (the wavy line is ok) and the C must be well separated from the glissando.

I'm not sure I explained it well.
I should look for an example.
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Rick G. on 2011-09-21 10:02 pm
You are possibly looking for a drop or fall, described <here> (http://bands.army.mil/masterclass/tusafb/dec2000/jazz.htm#special).
Any of Lawrie's "Dings" have a variety of glyphs for these. (see the attachment)

To place them so that they "stick" to the note, use: Justify:Left, Placement:AtNextNote
Use spaces to cause the glyph to start after the notehead.
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Flurmy on 2011-09-22 07:17 am
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You are possibly looking for a drop or fall

Yes, right that.

Quote
To place them so that they "stick" to the note, use: Justify:Left, Placement:AtNextNote
Use spaces to cause the glyph to start after the notehead.

You forgot a detail: the text must be placed BEFORE the note!
Good idea.
Thanks
Title: Re: Another alignment problem
Post by: Rick G. on 2011-09-22 07:24 am
You forgot a detail: the text must be placed BEFORE the note!
Sorry, I thought that 'Placement:AtNextNote' carried that implication. Given the 'World Wide' nature of the 'World Wide Web' it is perhaps unfortunate that Esperanto failed so miserably :)