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Any Musical Geniouses here?

I am doing 4 part harmony. Can any check if it is %100 correct and no mistakes??
 Right Hand is here
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Tempo|Tempo:70|Pos:11
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:9|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-2
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-6
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-3
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:9|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
joshers2005

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #1
Left Hand is here
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"        6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"IV"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"V"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:3
|Text|Text:"IV"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Bar
|Text|Text:"    6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"vi"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"        6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-8
|Text|Text:"ii"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:4
|Text|Text:"    4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        2"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"V"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:2
|Bar
|Text|Text:"     6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-8
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:3
|Text|Text:"iii"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:1
|Text|Text:"    4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        3"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"vi"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:1
|Text|Text:"        6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"IV"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:4
|Bar
|Text|Text:"     6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-8
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"    6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"V"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:7
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:8
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
joshers2005

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #2
[glow=red,2,300]OOOOOPPPPPS!!!! [glow=green,2,300]I typed the codes wrong. [glow=blue,2,300]When you select them Avoid the [glow=red,2,300][/ [glow=blue,2,300]and [glow=red,2,300]] [glow=blue,2,300]at the start and end of the clips
joshers2005

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #3
Hello Josh,

I hate to consider myself a genious by replying here, but I think I remember enough about Bach-style harmony and figured bass to help you. 

The only thing sticking out immediately to me is the subdominant chord following the Dominant.  As a rule (I hate rules tho) the IV chord should never follow a V unless your writing rock-n-roll, blues, or country.  The melody (assuming it can be unchanged) lends to a vi chord here, and it's okay to repeat them...

try this and see:

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Right hand:

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Tempo|Tempo:70|Pos:11
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-5
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:9|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-2
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-6
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-3
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:9|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End


Left hand:

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"        6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"IV"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"V"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:3
|Text|Text:"vi"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:4
|Bar
|Text|Text:"    6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"vi"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"        6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-8
|Text|Text:"ii"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:4
|Text|Text:"    4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        2"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"V"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:Half|Pos2:2
|Bar
|Text|Text:"     6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-8
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:3
|Text|Text:"iii"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:1
|Text|Text:"    4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        3"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"vi"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:1
|Text|Text:"        6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"IV"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-11
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:4
|Bar
|Text|Text:"     6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-8
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:6
|Text|Text:"    6"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-6|Placement:AtNextNote
|Text|Text:"        4"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-9
|Text|Text:"V"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:7
|Text|Text:"I"|Font:StaffBold|Pos:-10|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Half|Pos2:8
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Hope this helps!

-Virgil

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #4
I don't mean to make you feel bad but Deleted the file and I don't care about it any more. This topic is done. If I did need help, I would E-mail it to my Music teacher by printing it out anyway. Thanks any way Virgil.
joshers2005

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #5
Musical Genious? No, but I'm quite good at spelling Genius, and I can be quite ingenious...

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #6
Crap... I really need a spell checker.

And I didn't know genius and ingenious had the "root" word spelled differently.  Learn something new everyday I guess.

-Virgil

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #7
Off the top of my Dutch head: I believe the words 'gen', 'genie' and 'genial' share their root with genius and ingenious. And generate, of course. They all have to do with 'bringing forth'.
Ah well, the subject was closed, anyway. So going a little OT will do no harm.

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #8
Maybe an ingenious composer is bringing forte to the brass section? :)

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #9
Can I join in the off-topic fun? Rob - you are going to have to start charging for your language consultancy services. Were you aware that these words also have etymologically common source with the words engine and engineer as well?

engine

c.1300, from O.Fr. engin "skill, cleverness," also "war machine," from L. ingenium "inborn qualities, talent," from in- "in" + gen-, root of gignere "to beget, produce." At first meaning a trick or device, or any machine (especially military); sense of one that converts energy to mechanical power is 18c., especially of steam engines. Engineer "locomotive driver" is first attested 1839, Amer.Eng.

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #10
In all honesty, I *thought* genius had been spelled incorrectly, but I'm not one to flame ('specially as a "noob" here) and there was this possibility that "genious" was the "real" British spelling and we yanks dropped the "o"...

Excuses?

;-)

-Virgil (the mad "quoter")

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #11

The only thing sticking out immediately to me is the subdominant chord following the Dominant.  As a rule (I hate rules tho) the IV chord should never follow a V unless your writing rock-n-roll, blues, or country. 

(How do I see these code bits as NWC files?  Do I need to copy/paste them into a text file and rename the file .nwc, or what?  Anyhow...)


An IV chord could follow a V chord and maintain correct voice leading as long as you choose the inversions correctly.  For example, a root chord V could be followed by a first inversion IV.  The only drawback is that it is generally preferable to have at least one tone in common.  For 4-part harmony, you could achieve that by using a [abbr="dominant 7th V chord, I mean to say"]V7[/abbr].  I'm trying to think of a real world example, but none comes to mind.  You would probably be more likely to find it in Brahms than Bach, for instance.

 - seb

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #12
Steve, et al,

Of course, with exceptions to said "rule", say a V7- IV64- I as in a plagal cadence would be a possible exception (I think... read: disclaimer) I do stand corrected.  Rule #1 to music theory is that there are *always* exceptions to the rules!  Learn the rules, learn the exceptions to the rules, then forget 'em and play what you hear and feel!!  Rules are simply guidelines in music theory, not steadfast law, right? :-)

I digress...

Steve, simply wipe, copy and paste the code directly into a new staff in NWC and you should see!  Got to do it staff by staff this way tho, and all staff properties are lost.

-Virgil

 

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #13
But back on topic -

Has everyone seen the piece named "Spell Checker?"

 Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye ken knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #14
LAMP (Laughing Out Mezzo Piano - have to keep my voice down)

No. But I have read
"Deer Sir
Here are the fore pear of blew genes that you ordered..."
and such.

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #15
I tried swiping and pasting the code onto a staff, but it didn't work.  Any advice?  I'd really like to see it.  As for the rules, that's my understanding too: follow the rules, except when you can't.  The rules are based on common practice of the best composers.  In other words, they were formed after the fact and represent what happens most often.  I say that if a particular chord progression produces the aural result you wanted, go with it.  I'm thinking of a couple pieces in which the V-IV progression is used with nice effect.  (At least I think that's what I'm hearing.  My vertical listening skills are still a work in progress.)

I LOVE the Spell Checker poem!!

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #16
I think I see the problem. That is, if you were trying the last fragment: It's two fragments.
So, place your cursor before the !NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single) line. Now mark all lines, until you hit a blank line, and Copy. Paste this into your new Noteworthy document.
Add another staff. Go back to the Forum, and now mark the Left hand fragment, and paste this onto the new staff.

If you were trying one of the other fragments, then there's a different problem... You are not trying to paste into Noteworthy 1.75, are you? What exactly *does* happen when you try to paste?

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #17
Yep, I was trying to paste into 1.75.  I guess I'm no "genious."  I am inexperienced with code and I didn't even notice the 2.0 indication.
What happens when I try to paste?  Nothing!!
Thank you, though!

Re: Any Musical Geniouses here?

Reply #18
That was the problem, then.
Version 2.0 is a lot more versatile when it comes to cutting, copying and pasting. You can copy anything, paste it into an editor, move it around, and then paste it back into Noteworthy 2.0.