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Any better idea?

Re: Layering troubles

Reply #1
Hi Flurmy,
umm, I'm not completely sure what you're trying to end up with...

Is it a 2/4 bar, or a 5/8 bar?  If 2/4, then I don't think the rest should be visible, but if a 5/8 bar then yes, the rest should be visible...
I plays 'Bones, crumpets, coronets, floosgals, youfonymums 'n tubies.

Re: Layering troubles

Reply #2
2/4, of course, given the upper staff bar duration.
Maybe it could be better putting the rest in (vertical) line with the initial chord.
N.B. the original score, although being in print (1974), is not very well engraved...

Re: Layering troubles

Reply #3
Hi Flurmy,
given the bar is 2/4, and it's effectively a single staff (single instrument?) then there is no need for a visible rest at all, IMHO.
Especially considering the lower three minims (half notes) are stem down, the same as the quavers (eighth notes), making them a single voice anyway.
Perhaps a guitar holding a chord with the quavers played over the ringing chord? 

The other way to consider it might be that the quavers are the same notes as the top three minims so perhaps the top three minims should be quavers instead...

Your real clue will be how this is supposed to sound and notate accordingly, but I really don't think there's any need for a visible rest.

Incidentally, what instrument is it supposed to be?
I plays 'Bones, crumpets, coronets, floosgals, youfonymums 'n tubies.

Re: Layering troubles

Reply #4
You got it: guitar.  :)

Re: Layering troubles

Reply #5
N.B. The score very often notates the chords and the arpeggi with about half notes stem down and the other half stem up.
Has this some significance, beside aestetics?  :)
I don't think so, even if the score is a "didactical" one.

Re: Layering troubles

Reply #6
N.B. The score very often notates the chords and the arpeggi with about half notes stem down and the other half stem up.
Has this some significance, beside aestetics? :)
I don't think so, even if the score is a "didactical" one.
I concur, I think it's just aesthetics. <edit> Perhaps they are using the stem direction to indicate which strings the note should be on?  Stem up for the three "high" strings and stem down for the three "low" strings? </edit> - <second edit> Nope, that doesn't work 'cos the quavers are stem down. </second edit>

Notating guitar can be a challenge at times - maybe TAB would be better, but I've never learned it, not being a string player of any kind, unless you count the string on the rotor of one of my trombones of course  ;)
I plays 'Bones, crumpets, coronets, floosgals, youfonymums 'n tubies.