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Title: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Opagust on 2012-12-16 07:54 pm
In the attached song (Frosty the Snowman), the note in measure 58 has only to be sung in the second verse.  Is there a way to accomplish this?
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2012-12-16 08:11 pm
You could mute the note on the staves that you have displayed and then create two hidden staves (one for flute and one for choir Ahhs) and have the muted note play at the correct time second time round.

You would not necessarily have to copy out all of the measures. You could (bearing in mind time sig changes and flow instructions) use local repeats to set up most of the measures in the hgidden staves.

There may be other ways !

Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2012-12-16 09:43 pm
Hidden 1st and 2nd time bars:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Rest|Dur:Half
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Ending|Endings:1|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Ending|Endings:2|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Bar
|Ending|Endings:1,2|Visibility:Never
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Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2012-12-16 09:50 pm
Lawrie,

Don't think that would work too well.  If you look at the file, the bar in question is the second bar in the repeated section.

R.
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2012-12-16 10:19 pm
Don't think that would work too well.  If you look at the file, the bar in question is the second bar in the repeated section.
Oops, as I originally posted it you are correct, I've now edited it (I'd left an element out) and it works just fine.  FWIW I've used this method quite a few times...
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2012-12-16 10:35 pm
Hi Lawrie,

You learn something every day !  I like it .  Works well.  Never thought of that before and I'm sure I could have made use of it in some of my songs.

Opagust  -  Lawrie's solution works well and so it is clear, see attachment. By the way, you need to put a Coda in measure 66 on the Tenor II line
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Rick G. on 2012-12-17 06:01 am
I'd do this:
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!NoteWorthyComposer(2.5)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:1|CaretIndex:9
|AddStaff|Name:"Tenor I"|Label:"HT"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)
|StaffProperties|StereoPan:127
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Flute"|Patch:73|Bank:0,0|DynVel:127,127,127,127,127,127,127,127
|Lyrics|Align:Standard Rules
|Lyric1|Text:"go, Fros-ty go! _ Dance high and low!\r\n"
|Lyric2|Text:"for-ty be-low, a real dy-na-mo!\r\n"
|Clef|Type:Treble|OctaveShift:Octave Down
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Tempo|Tempo:160|Text:"Pop Rock"|Pos:11
|RestMultiBar|NumBars:48|PrintOnce:Y|WhenHidden:ShowBars,ShowRests
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|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Ending|Endings:2|ClosedBracket:Y
|RestMultiBar|NumBars:1|PrintOnce:Y|WhenHidden:ShowBars,ShowRests
|Bar|Style:Double
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Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Opagust on 2012-12-17 10:17 am
Thanks Richard, Lawrie and Rick!

It seems to me that all three of you are fulltime watching the forum so to help poor people like me!
Both solutions from Richard and Rick work well.

Rick: this is a "why did'nt I think of that" solution! But that's characteristic for a genius (you, I mean), I guess.
Richard: I didn't know one could have special endings in the middle of a repeat.

I finally chose Richard's solution, because that's the first one I tried out and is works fine.

Lawrie: Concerning the missing Coda, thanks for noticing, but it didn't influence the playback, and the two tenor staves are layered, so it did'nt influence the printed score either. (But I've added it now of course)

Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2012-12-17 10:34 am
Richard: I didn't know one could have special endings in the middle of a repeat.
I finally chose Richard's solution, because that's the first one I tried out and is works fine.

I think you mean Lawrie's solution.  I just picked up on what Lawrie said after he made a correction to his original posting.

Rich.
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Rick G. on 2012-12-17 10:43 am
Rick: this is a "why didn't I think of that" solution!
My approach is to try everything and discard what doesn't work.

This also works:
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!NoteWorthyComposer(2.5)
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Open (hidden)
|Lyrics|Align:Standard Rules
|Lyric1|Text:"a1 _ c1\r\n"
|Lyric2|Text:"a2 b2 c2\r\n"
|Ending|Endings:1,2|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Ending|Endings:2|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th,Grace|Pos:2^|Visibility:Never
|Ending|Endings:1,2|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:2|Opts:Lyric=Always
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Ending|Endings:1|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
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Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Haymo on 2013-01-03 11:12 am
I didn't know that fairies had tails.
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Opagust on 2013-01-04 08:22 am
I didn't know that fairies had tails.
Look at this:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=1687217

BTW: I copied the lyrics from our choral sheet (TTB, arranged by Kirby Shaw) of Frosty. I made no mistake, it is what it is.
And so we perform it: we sing "fairy tail" in stead of "fairy tale. No one has noticed it yet.
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Rick G. on 2013-01-04 02:44 pm
BTW: I copied the lyrics from our choral sheet (TTB, arranged by Kirby Shaw) of Frosty. And so we perform it: we sing "fairy tail"
I don't have the original sheet music, but the Reader's Digest Merry Christmas Songbook (ISBN 0-89577-105-5) has it as "fairy tale".
Title: Re: How to mute a note in 1 verse.
Post by: Haymo on 2013-01-17 08:07 am
Opagust,
you sure had me there!