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Title: slur problem
Post by: LEON on 2012-09-27 08:10 pm

In a slurred group in which there are both visible and invisible notes the slur parabola becomes abnormally high. This is shown by the print preview, while the editing mode remains unsuspiciously normal. Not too difficult to find a way around it, but I think this should be corrected in the future.

This is what I have figured out so far:
1) The high parabola of the slur is caused by an invisible note which is at the same height or higher than the highest visible note that preceeds it, in fact if it is lowered by one tone both editing and print preview will work ok. Try doing so to the invisible high D in my example and see what happens at the print preview.
2) This only happens when the problematic note is invisible. If it's made visible there is no problem.

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Dynamic|Style:p|Pos:-21|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo,Beam
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|Text|Text:"8a"|Font:User1|Pos:13|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:9|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:9|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:64th,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Visibility:Never
|Text|Text:"nat."|Font:User1|Pos:7|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Title: Re: slur problem
Post by: Rick G. on 2012-09-27 09:07 pm

A few more examples:

Hidden Rest anomalies (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=6701.msg45872)
Bug: beta 2.05 Slur Print Preview (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=5716.msg37230)
another @#!* slur problem (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=6339.msg43093#msg43093)

Title: Re: slur problem
Post by: LEON on 2012-09-27 11:49 pm

And here is another one: abnormal with accidentals normal without.

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,StemLength=13,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:b-4|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:#-3|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:b-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:b0|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:#1|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:b3|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:#4|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:b5|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:b7|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:#8|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,StemLength=13,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,StemLength=13,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Slur=Upward,StemLength=13,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Title: Re: slur problem
Post by: Rick G. on 2012-09-28 01:38 am

Quote from: LEON – 2012-09-27 11:49 pm

abnormal with accidentals normal without.

See:

Adjusting slurs using "phantom notes" (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=6928.msg47528)

Title: Re: slur problem
Post by: LEON on 2012-09-28 10:35 am

Great, so far I was only managing to increase the slur curve with phantom rests, so thanks a lot!
BTW is there a reason wht the grace note has a tie in your example?
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th,Slur|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th,Dotted,Slur,Accent|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:b3
|Bar|Style:SectionClose
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th,Slur|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th,Dotted,Slur,Accent|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:Whole,Grace|Pos:5z^|Opts:NoLegerLines,Muted|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:b3|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:Whole|Pos2:5z
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Title: Re: slur problem
Post by: Rick G. on 2012-09-28 10:53 am

Quote from: LEON – 2012-09-28 10:35 am

BTW is there a reason ... the grace note has a tie in your example?

Yes. The tie from a muted note mutes the tie destination.

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