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Title: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-10-03 06:44 pm
New features installed in this update include:


Currently, you can get the correct update from within NWC2 by going to Help, Access NoteWorthySoftware.com.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rob den Heijer on 2007-10-03 07:06 pm
The nwctxt thing should be a real treat for me.
If anyone starts anything about lists and priorities, I will bring forward hellfire and brimstone.
In short: Thanks!
Rob.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-10-03 07:49 pm
*.nwctxt format is complete; export, followed by import, should be a lossless operation, except for rounding errors
Wow! That was a lot of work.     NWC2 goes metric :)

This should keep me busy for a week or two.
That will give Rob a chance to cool off before I post my list ...

I notice:
Quote from: Mozart.nwctxt
|Font|Style:User 1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:9|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
CharSet:0 could use an explanation.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-10-03 08:01 pm
The CharSet comes from the Script box in the Font dialog.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: kahman on 2007-10-03 08:10 pm
Well, I guess that now that we have full .nwctxt (I'll have to work on more parsing work), maybe he'll next work on MXML support.
It would be nice to have that, but I guess now that we have NWCTXT, someone could write a full converter.  (Or it could be a communal project, well, it could be if we could agree on what language to use!)

Also, Eric, would you mind posting the full NWCTXT specifications up for the programmers here?  That would be even better then just having the format and having to decode it manually.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Peter Edwards on 2007-10-03 09:03 pm
Note clusters line up properly at last. Wow!
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-10-03 09:29 pm
Note clusters line up properly at last. Wow!
Could you post an example clip. I'd like to know what has changed.
TIA
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-10-03 09:42 pm
View the attached in the Viewer, versus the new beta 2.20.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-10-03 10:00 pm
I see. Another fine fix.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2007-10-03 10:59 pm
Thanks Eric,
New features installed in this update include:
  • Fix multi-staff notehead alignment for split stem chords when the dominant voice is stem up

This one probably has the greatest impact for me  :)

Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Andrew Purdam on 2007-10-03 11:13 pm
Also, Eric, would you mind posting the full NWCTXT specifications up for the programmers here?  That would be even better then just having the format and having to decode it manually.

Yes. Might that become available?
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-10-04 12:00 am
New features installed in this update include:
  • Fix selection highlight problem when using wheel mouse scroller beyond the scrollable extents
  • Fix selection and insertion point caret visibility when the active staff has been partially scrolled out of view
I can pronounce these bugs dead for Win98SE using a(n) USB HID-compliant mouse.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: William Ashworth on 2007-10-04 05:41 pm
I've been converting a piece for brass quintet and piano from C score to conductor's score, so I've been using the staff transposition tool a lot, and it's suddenly struck me that - unlike my experience in the past - the accidentals are hardly ever having to be corrected. Is this an undocumented new feature of beta 2.20? If so, I applaud!
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-10-04 05:52 pm
Nothing new in transpose lately...back in the old days, transpose worked differently. It used to do the equivalent of what is now known as Audit Enharmonic Spelling. It was changed quite a while back to preserve existing staff line intervals whenever possible.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: William Ashworth on 2007-10-04 06:07 pm
How far back is a while back? The difference I'm applauding as I do these transpositions is primarily in enharmonics - I have yet to come across a single double flat or double sharp that should be the next note below or above instead. There have been a sharp or two that would be better rendered as flats, and vice versa, but most of it has been very clean. Maybe it helps that I'm transposing by a major 2nd or a perfect 5th instead of a more distant interval such as a semitone or a tritone.....?
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-10-04 06:13 pm
Possibly here:

Version 2.0 Public Preview 1r.
My datestamp on this is: Tuesday, August 16, 2005
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Peter Edwards on 2007-10-04 07:03 pm
Much earlier. I can remember it being changed possibly in the 90's, but certainly long before v2.00.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-10-04 07:09 pm
The "2.0 Public Preview 1r" change was caused by the Transposition field in the Insert, Instrument Change and its handling by Transpose.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-10-09 10:56 am
A corresponding beta 2.20 release of the NWC Viewer is now available:

NoteWorthy Composer Viewer
http://ntworthy.com/nwc2/viewer.htm

This version now includes support for user selection of play back device.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2007-10-09 04:17 pm
A corresponding beta 2.20 release of the NWC Viewer is now available:


A very slight problem which I don't know if it was there before this update - but became apparent when I was testing this release.

If I load a music file into the viewer  and play it. If while the file is playing I click on Tools / Options and just look at the values presented without changing anything, then click on OK, the file that is playing has all the instuments changed to piano (can't tell what patch - maybe 000 maybe 001)

This is not one of the instrument patches that is in the file because I tried it with a file that just had strings and it still changed it to piano.

Now you may say "What on earth do you want to do that for?" And you'd be right. But I did - and that is what happened. Repeatable.

In NWC (both versions), items that should not be used whilst playing the file are greyed out. Perhaps this should happen in the viewer. 

No great problem, just thought I'd report it.
 

Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-10-09 04:27 pm
Thanks Richard. We intentionally chose not to restrict access to this while the file is playing. However, this should not happen if the device is unchanged, and a fix will appear in the next release for this circumstance.
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-10-09 04:51 pm
Now you may say "What on earth do you want to do that for?" And you'd be right.
David (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?action=profile;u=29) might say that, I wouldn't. Sounds like a feature to me :)
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2007-10-09 09:00 pm
Sounds like a feature to me :)

I concur
Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: David Palmquist on 2007-10-10 01:09 am
(My reputation precedes me...) 

I think I'd call it a feature too, if it's a quick and dirty way to convert all the voices of an orchestral or band score to one sound.

Title: Re: NWC2 Beta 2.20 is now available
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-10-11 02:18 am
A corresponding beta 2.20 release of the NWC Viewer is now available:
NoteWorthy Composer Viewer http://ntworthy.com/nwc2/viewer.htm
This version now includes support for user selection of play back device.
But still not: https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=4444.0 (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=4444.0)
Oh well, I can dream can't I?