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Title: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: bersyl91 on 2007-01-22 04:53 pm
Ifeel a bit frustrated when I want to make groups of instruments under NWC/NWC2 because I can't make the bars connect together.

When I give the Orchestral style for different staves, the bars get connected together between staves.

When I make a piano part, using Upper grand staff and Lower grand staff, bars gets also connected together between staves.

But when I maxe a mix - let's say for SATB, if I try to give the soprano Upper grand staff, the bass Lower grand staff, no configuration permits me to have bars connected for the Alt and Tenor staves. I think giving them Orchestral style could make bars connected upper and lower...
Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-01-22 06:57 pm
Joining SATB with a Brace is a bit non-standard, but if you must have it, the attachment shows how.  There are numerous ways to hide the rests if you don't want to see them in the Editor.
Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: David Palmquist on 2007-01-23 03:26 am
To allow groupings within a score, set each group to orchestral, but separate them with an extra staff that is set to standard.  Then just layer this under the last staff of the group.  Give it an open ending, and that should do the trick.  Your brace at the beginning of the page will stay unaltered, but the extra staff breaks the orchestral connections between the last staff of one group and the first of the next group.  You may want to fiddle a bit with the vertical height, but that only takes a couple of tries.

Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: nineworlds on 2007-02-22 07:26 pm
Is there a way to get the orchestral thick bar at the start to reflect the groupings - that is, to curl back in at the bottom of a group rather than at the bottom of all staves or not at all?
Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-02-24 09:32 pm
nineworlds: no. No one has figured out how.
Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: K.A.T. on 2007-02-24 10:24 pm
Is this what you're looking for?
Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: kahman on 2007-02-24 10:42 pm
Most likely that's what nineworlds is looking for.  It's what I once asked for help with, and I've seen it in numerous scores.
[Looks at picture again with envy.]
Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: nineworlds on 2007-03-14 01:42 pm
Yes, K.A.T., that's it. Has this actually been done in NWC, or is that a mock-up?

- Iain.
Title: Re: Wish: connecting bars between Lower- /Upper grand staff and orchestral
Post by: K.A.T. on 2007-03-15 12:42 am
Alas, it's only a model.
I've been trying to do this for some time - put it in the wish list and everything.
There was a longish thread about it once before (probrbly before version 2 was announced), with enough of us demonstrating its value/necessity that I thought version 2 would implement it.
I was hoping for something like this: