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Title: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: Warren Porter on 2006-05-22 03:24 pm
I am trying to split a bass staff with many notes or parts of chords on leger lines which reach high into the treble staff.  How can I split that around middle C?

TIA
Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: David Palmquist on 2006-05-22 05:34 pm
I"m not sure what you mean by splitting the part, Warren. 

I've seen piano parts where a treble clef is inserted, then insert a treble clef when the part comes down out of the stratosphere again.  An alternative is to use a text 8va marking.

From the parts I've copied out, it seems trombone players are not unaccustomed to 3 or 4 leger lines, so it may not be a problem for them.


Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: Warren Porter on 2006-05-23 04:04 pm
It is a piano acc. all on one staff and I would like to break all notes or parts of chords into the treble staff.
Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: K.A.T. on 2006-05-23 10:13 pm
I seem to remember reading about a chord-splitter utility available (at the Scripto?),
but don't have time to search for it right now.
You could also re-import it with Maximum single track chord size set to 2.
Results won't be the best, but they may suffice.
Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2006-05-24 11:34 am
G'day Warren,

It is a piano acc. all on one staff and I would like to break all notes or parts of chords into the treble staff.

Is this about it?

Export to MIDI (I used type0) then re-import,
Next,
Next,
Map each channel..., max chord 18, next,
Edit: First selection - Pitch C5 through G10, Second selection C0 through B4, Next,
Finish:
Voila

Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: Warren Porter on 2006-05-24 03:47 pm
Export to MIDI (I used type0) then re-import,
Next,
Map each channel..., max chord 18, next,
Edit: First selection - Pitch C5 through G10, Second selection C0 through B4, Next,
Finish:
Voila
Many thanks!  I had tried going through midi, but I couldn't figure out what middle C was.
Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: Warren Porter on 2006-05-25 03:14 pm
I learned something replicating your results.  In a few places I had to move a note to the other staff to make it more playable, but the midi route saved a lot of heavy lifting.  Attached is the whole Bumblebee
Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2006-05-26 12:51 am
G'day Warren,
something else I noticed...  In the original there were several instances of staccato notes that were re imported as shorter duration notes.  E.G bar 1 staccato minim chord, imported version crotchet chord.

There are several other oddities too.  E.G. Staccato quavers coming in as crotchets - should have been semiquavers to be consistent...
Title: Re: How to separate treble & bass staves from one staff w/ ledger lines
Post by: Rick G. on 2006-05-28 07:08 am
Another Tip: If you put a playing style: Legato at the beginning of each staff before export, the import is much cleaner.