Forums => Tips & Tricks => Avant-garde => Topic started by: ҡяıṡṭȏṿѧʟʟȗċєѧṭ ѧṃѧԀѧṭ ċяıṡṡѧɢяıṃ on 2021-09-23 02:45 am
Title: "Nu Algorithmic Possibilities"
Post by: ҡяıṡṭȏṿѧʟʟȗċєѧṭ ѧṃѧԀѧṭ ċяıṡṡѧɢяıṃ on 2021-09-23 02:45 am
The Quinsex Praeludium is constructed algoic in 1st 5 chromatic intervals, then six back and forth simplex arithmetic while the Octanovem is 8s and 9s chromatonal math and this is the simple formula. However it can be more complex by introduction of say a triplex serial equation of say 3s,6s, & 7s numerics at random. The rest of the formula was not to extreme octave ranges that where practical in the process of all the systematic copy and pasting back and forth between the destraic treble and mancanian bass clef in an impromptu fashion of choice excluded in the formula book that was going to explore all binary combinations of interval combinations in the form of these example two praeludiums in volumes. As well as cohesive patterns of parts contrasting juxtaposition. The details of the entire formula utilized can be dissected from the scores at a analysis inspection like you would a fuga. The purpose of this post is to exemplify that a program within a program in prompts could be devised to lessen time expenditures to compose preludes like these in a very short time by box entering numbers representing intervals and other numerical equates in the score so the program would compute the work automatically after all figures prompted i don't know if it could be as a usertool or object plugin i cannot write the syntax know how. If it could be a tool the idea is to achieve a shortcut to turn say an hour into some mere minutes by say chromatic interval prompts up or down without having to constantly count consecutively to allow fast working with scoral numeric formulas that created these two of my nwc files. This Avant-Garde post is like a subprogram withing a Program pretendinding to be a Program. I have this idea of a program as an Extensive user tool or LUA that can Compose an entire work like these two By a few numeric prompts to automate The entire score with final click useful In as a shortcut/s for your theme or Algorithmic idea like I did with these But I had to do it manually & wished It Could have been faster for the Completion of all intervals and some chordals since to the power of would Be immense project. Nota: I have Attached the snapshots from my book Of algorithms for your analytical curiosity. One can see what was not Included otherwise my manual Idea modularizations of sensible Contrasts and details imputed on The fly.
Bout " Superhuman ": Imagine the awe of superhuman running &/or flying in physical &/or neuronic proportions. Much copy n paste & complex ratios of retrograde along with attempted non-repeating sequentias of rhythmic patterns for the sake of would-be diametria as the work lasts 2:36 minutes/secs Alt-236 the PC code for the infinity sign or the unlied 8 as well otherwise the same in it's octahedronic lore....-dkb,10/3/2021 10:55:13 AM
Bout " Substance=Cohesion ": Couldn't be in a better key except for maybe d minor or g minor? Unlike orchestrations or too impractical to perform the other i call extremetrical or/& quasi-extremetrical are those practical to perform with human hands or 2 hands as a solo. Try some old- school New Age Music as a comparison but yet added elements of nu passionate innovation like the newness of vintage French imperativity like say the French Automotonists to say the Automotronists in contrast even though preserved as a simplex proto-skeletonic model. Many diadems i like, to collect like fav style & form signatures along the way, like New Age, Dawn, Vampeer, Gothic, Victorian, & The Neos of, all contain their own music formula like you know the 12-measure jazz one. Omit measures 20-27's-R.H. Lower Voice notes for an easy & practical 2-hand original performanza. This piece is designed to be performed, & it is only then that one can truly appreciate it without leaving an important component to be desired in the equation. Requires the human touch as the Midi or NWC cannot due it 100% justice as one playing it on an acoustic pianoforte not to mention the magic of the " via humana transference." I find on the computer more difficult & even illusive objective to transfer all adamants in their essential & just entirety. -dkb 10/3/2021 2:42:36 PM P.S. " Sometimes in my music i paint Pure Green Utopias as one example from a possible however far or even impossible future or futuristic & Neo-reality/ies that longs to Shine via human obsession, predilection identified genesis explanatory." NOTA: " My music ix a new(Neo or Nu) equation & there are sum or some elements of notative articulation. I hope you enjoy this one." -dkb, 10/3/2021 3:10:34 PM
Title: Re: "Nu Algorithmic Possibilities"
Post by: hmmueller on 2021-09-23 07:03 am
Interesting - what you challenge us, if I understand you correctly: You want us/a listener to FIND OUT the "formula" behind this.
I only listened to "Quinsex". In tempo 333, this is certainly not possible :) I reduced the tempo to 120 - then, patterns begin to emerge that I can partially grasp.
However, on first hearing, there are some "deviations": In m.8, m.14 , m.21 and 24 and 26, m.43 and 47 and then m.80 (and certainly some more I overheard), there is an augmented fourth (tritone). All other fourths are perfect ones. But I do not see, right now, a pattern where these tritones are located ...
... certainly there's more to see and find here!
Thanks! H.M.
Title: Re: "Nu Algorithmic Possibilities"
Post by: ҡяıṡṭȏṿѧʟʟȗċєѧṭ ѧṃѧԀѧṭ ċяıṡṡѧɢяıṃ on 2021-09-24 11:08 pm
Yes,those were exceptions I cannot Confirm but the work works something Right written. I had lots to say bout This there was an unexpected wipeout Unfortunately. I have several methods Of producing forms, in this case constant number patterns I would say in Any, any? Persistent systematic combinations. Lawrie,if empty layering box in In the page setup I Get no layer with staff and no layer lower Voice dot placement possible. I guess I could Have allowed layered instead at least With all the all sensible ones though I Probably would have gotten more Visible staffs when I wanted minimal.
Title: Re: "Nu Algorithmic Possibilities"
Post by: ҡяıṡṭȏṿѧʟʟȗċєѧṭ ѧṃѧԀѧṭ ċяıṡṡѧɢяıṃ on 2021-09-25 03:11 am
Interesting - what you challenge us, if I understand you correctly: You want us/a listener to FIND OUT the "formula" behind this.
I only listened to "Quinsex". In tempo 333, this is certainly not possible :) I reduced the tempo to 120 - then, patterns begin to emerge that I can partially grasp.
However, on first hearing, there are some "deviations": In m.8, m.14 , m.21 and 24 and 26, m.43 and 47 and then m.80 (and certainly some more I overheard), there is an augmented fourth (tritone). All other fourths are perfect ones. But I do not see, right now, a pattern where these tritones are located ...
... certainly there's more to see and find here!
Thanks! H.M.
Ms 8 was all 6s and 5s but your right the Quarters varied as minor 3rd, major 3rd, And the Tritone in the measure’s right Hand. I guess this was an manual extra Disarray from the algorithmic formula. Thanks!