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Title: Hiding objects on a staff
Post by: Warren Porter on 2021-03-09 01:51 pm
Without going through the process of hidden-played, muted-displayed staves for every part, is there a way to make the following look like pentuplet 16ths by hiding the top beam and the dots on 32nd notes?
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Key|Signature:F#,C#,G#,D#|Tonic:E
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Hiding objects on a staff
Post by: hmmueller on 2021-03-09 02:09 pm
Isn't setting "Extra Dot Spacing" to -1 (minus one) for alle notes sufficient?

Edit: Sorry, this will not remove the top beam :-( - I think there's no way to do this. The only idea I have is

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:2|CaretIndex:1|CaretPos:3
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:"<Name>"|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:"Copyright © 2021 <Name>"|Copyright2:"All Rights Reserved"
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Spacer|Width:50
|Key|Signature:F#,C#,G#,D#|Tonic:E
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam,XDotSpace=-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End,XDotSpace=-1
|Bar
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Key|Signature:F#,C#,G#,D#|Tonic:E
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:4
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3
|Rest|Dur:4th|Visibility:Never
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

(oops - missing clefs. Assume that the lower staff has a bass clef ;) )

Regards
Harald
Title: Re: Hiding objects on a staff
Post by: Mike Shawaluk on 2021-03-09 05:29 pm
I'm not very skilled with the use of Beam.hmm, but perhaps it could be made to do the beams, by setting the stem lengths to 0 for all notes?

For some time I have been considering a user object-based solution to n-tuplets. The approach that made the most sense to me would be to create a series of grace notes that correspond to the desired ntuplets, followed by a rest whose value is the total for the ntuplet. Then you mute the grace notes and make them and the rest invisible, and you put the object in front of them. The object would draw the notes, stems and beams, and could potentially play them also.  Does this idea/approach make any sense?

(I held off on doing this in hopes that the next version of NWC would have support for ntuplets. And also because I rarely, if ever, use >3 tuplets.)
Title: Re: Hiding objects on a staff
Post by: Flurmy on 2021-03-09 08:07 pm
Sorry, no beam...
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Key|Signature:F#,C#,G#,D#|Tonic:E
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-4
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-3
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-2
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-1
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:0
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-1
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-2
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-3
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:-4
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th|Pos2:-5
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:0
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:1
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:2
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:3
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:4
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:3
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:2
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:1
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th,Slur|Pos2:0
|RestChord|Dur:32nd,Dotted|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,HideRest|Dur2:16th|Pos2:-1
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

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in hopes that the next version of NWC would have support for ntuplets
  :(
Title: Re: Hiding objects on a staff
Post by: William Ashworth on 2021-03-10 06:03 am
Mike, I'm holding out hope that you might be allowed to do the next version.
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