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Title: tie problems (the continuing sto-o-o-ry)
Post by: William Ashworth on 2011-01-02 01:09 AM
In this measure:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Bar
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Chord|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:4th|Pos2:#5^
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:#6^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End,Tie=Upward
|Chord|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:5,6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

the tie from the A# (second half of first beat to first half of second beat) ends at the G# notehead. It should extend to the A# notehead. The clip was created in NWC 2.1, but it shows the same results when pasted into the 2.5 beta.

This is clearly related to the general problem that NWC has with the shapes and endpoints of slurs and ties.
Title: Re: tie problems (the continuing sto-o-o-ry)
Post by: David Palmquist on 2011-01-02 01:17 AM
Way back in the private beta test days of NWC2, Eric experimented with curved lines that had placeable start and end points, and had a third point or anchor to nudge the height and shape of the curve.

It never made it into the program, but it sure would be nice.  It would eliminate so many frustrations with slurs, ties, special endings, jazz notation, etc. 
Title: Re: tie problems (the continuing sto-o-o-ry)
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2011-01-02 02:26 AM
Yes please!
Title: Re: tie problems (the continuing sto-o-o-ry)
Post by: Rick G. on 2011-01-02 02:40 AM
Alfred's Essential Dictionary of Music Notation gives this example:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Chord|Dur:Whole|Pos:-2^,1^,2^,5^
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Whole|Pos:-2,1,2,5
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
and says:

Fortunately this is all rather trivial to fix with a layer.
Title: Re: tie problems (the continuing sto-o-o-ry)
Post by: William Ashworth on 2011-01-02 04:06 AM
Quote from: Rick G. –
Forunately this is all rather trival to fix with a layer.

Yes, it is fortunate - or Alfred couldn't get his examples right, using NWC.

Title: Re: tie problems (the continuing sto-o-o-ry)
Post by: Rick G. on 2011-01-02 04:59 AM
I'd call it a case of using Alfred's to figure out how to get NWC right. (And they call me sarcastic)
Title: Re: tie problems (the continuing sto-o-o-ry)
Post by: William Ashworth on 2011-01-02 05:05 AM
Yeah, I should have added a ;-)
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