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Title: Rest plus note as chord, without layering
Post by: gpoynor on 2010-06-01 06:05 PM
Folks --

I'm new to NWC, and working my way through the User Manual. In entering a TTBB song in NWC, I wanted at one place to have the top T part with a quarter rest, and the bottom part to have two tied eighth notes. In fumbling around with the chord command I was able at one point to get this to work, but without the correct note values, do I erased it. In numerous subsequent attempts I have not been able to replicate this. I know that I can use staff layering to do this, but it would appear from my one-time accidental experience that I should also be able to do it in the setting I have described. Can someone help me, if only to tell me that I was hallucinating in my abortive attempt?

Thanks in advance.
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George Poynor
Title: Re: Rest plus note as chord, without layering
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2010-06-01 06:12 PM
You can combine a note with an existing smaller rest using Insert, Chord Member. Since your rest is larger than the note that you want to combine with it, layering is currently the only option.
Title: Re: Rest plus note as chord, without layering
Post by: Rick G. on 2010-06-01 06:42 PM
The note and rest may be of the same duration. The Chord Member Command (http://ntworthy.com/nwc2/help/MNU_ADDCHORD.htm) docs are a bit out of date about this.

This has always been possible for NWC 2.0+  For older versions, see <this> (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=5744.msg37486#msg37486) tip.
Title: Re: Rest plus note as chord, without layering
Post by: Joseph Roberts on 2010-06-02 05:13 AM
After working with that issue many time in choral works ...   Layering is much easier. 

It's so much more natural, because you can simply score as you see and hear the notes.  You don't need to worry about which notes need to be scored after first assigning ties.  Slurs are more easy to control.  What was more complicated in a single staff, has become much easier when NWC incorporated layering.

Scoring a TTBB can be a lot easier by using layering.  Also, the separate staffs give you the opportunity for getting a more balanced 'soundscape', where the four voices can be spread left-to-right for spatial effect, while still keeping the visual TTBB notation.

So the suggestion would be ...  if you can do it with layering, you might be able to do it more quickly, and you'll have a more easily editable score whenever you feel the need to revise it.

Hoping it's helpful information.

Joe



Title: Re: Rest plus note as chord, without layering
Post by: Randy Williams on 2010-06-02 10:26 AM
I agree wholeheartedly with Joseph - layering provides many advantages over trying to pack split chords and rest chords into a single staff.  It's a little more work sometimes for the initial note entry - you've got to watch for things such as:


But the advantages are many:

Title: Re: Rest plus note as chord, without layering
Post by: Peter Edwards on 2010-06-02 10:38 AM
You also need to be aware that an accidental in one stave is not reflected in the other, so you need to duplicate it as necessary.

This can be good practice in any case, but you can hide it using an invisble tied grace note if you want to.