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Title: When to transpose
Post by: snooker on 2008-08-02 07:27 PM
I can appreciate that (for instance) a note heard from a Bb trumpet when it plays a note scored as C will be a Bb and that it needs to be transposed accordingly.
II want to play and hear a Noteworthy score in it's final form do I enter the notes for all the instruments in Concert pitch and only transpose them later for printing parts?
I believe this must be the case because the instrument patches do not differentiate between (say) a Clarinet in A or Bb - but I can't get my head round it.  Help!
Title: Re: When to transpose
Post by: William Ashworth on 2008-08-02 08:21 PM
Correct. You enter the notes at concert pitch and then you transpose. Use Tools/Transpose Staff and make sure that the "Update staff playback transposition" box is checked; this will keep the actual sound of the staff the same (e.g., for a Bb instrument transposition, a note written as Bb will now look like a C but will still sound like a Bb).

A couple of hints:


Hope this helps....

Bill
Title: Re: When to transpose
Post by: snooker on 2008-08-02 08:48 PM
Many thanks Bill.

I feel I can now make some progress.
Title: Re: When to transpose
Post by: David Palmquist on 2008-08-03 12:35 AM
You don't have to start with concert pitch.  If you are entering notes from a full score that is already transposed, just enter them as written.  To get the right playback pitch, adjust the staff transposition properties.  Make sure the staff is the right one, then press F2 for staff properties.  Select the midi tab, then for trumpets or clarinets, set the transposition to -2.

If you want to change the transposed part to concert pitch, just enter it as it appeared in your source, then do the opposite of what Bill has directed (since you'll be starting with transposed parts that you are changing to concert pitch).

If you are working from fairly decent source material, Sharpeye.exe is an optical music recognition program that works quite well.  Sharpeye is available from http://www.visiv.co.uk/index.htm (http://www.visiv.co.uk/index.htm)  You still have to correct and edit the music, but Sharpeye  will probably cut the amount of time you spend entering the notes in 1/2.  You can use it free for 30 days, but I think you're restricted to processing one image at a time.  The paid version will batch process several pages. 

You have to create an image of the original sheet music as a black and white TIFF file, and import that.  Then Sharpeye processes it.  You fix whatever errors you can there, then save it as an XML file, and use http://www.niversoft.com/ (http://www.niversoft.com/)'s mxml2nwcc.exe to import it into NWC2, where you do your final corrections.  What used to take me about 30 hours takes only 10 or 15 now.

Sharpeye will make errors, but I find these are reduced if I scan at a higher resolution (400 or 600 dpi) or magnify the image (set your scanner to 110% or more). 

Title: Re: When to transpose
Post by: snooker on 2008-08-03 08:06 PM
David, many thanks for the additional information. Looks very interesting.