I ran the linked midi file through a karaoke program and had no trouble looking at the lyrics, but they disappeared from an import into NWC2. Any ideas?
TIA
http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/ATT00061.mid (http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/ATT00061.mid)
Change the extension from mid to kar
See: FAQ: Does NWC support karaoke (*.kar) files? (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/nwc2/help/faq_karfiles.htm)
That did it; many thanks.
A Forum search show many post related to ths topic.
Judging from <this> (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=6156.0), an update to the MIDI Import Wizard (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/nwc2/help/MNU_FILEIMPORT.htm) is likely.
I think it would be useful to add this option:
Step 1: Define the default import optionsInclude Lyrics?- based on filetype (*.kar, *.mid, *.rmi)
- from Lyric Text Event (karaoke)
- from Lyric Meta Event (midi, resource midi)
- no
As noted <here> (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=153.msg428#msg428) over a decade ago, several imports using different parameters are usually needed.
Selecting the last option:
no, would speed this process and reduce clutter.
Currently, getting options 2 and 3 require the user to rename files.
Windows is getting progressively hostile to renaming file extensions. In another 5 years, the typical user may not even know that files have extensions.
I tried to import this file http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/nwc2/house_ri.mid (http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/nwc2/house_ri.mid) into NWC2, but there are a number of wrong notes in the "tenor sax" part. Converting the original midi into text gives something that looks like this sample:
3:176 |On Note | chan= 4 | pitch=D 2 | vol=121
204 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=464
212 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=1456
220 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=2528
228 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=3392
236 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=4432
244 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=5312
248 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=6256
256 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=7280
264 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=8191
336 |Off Note | chan= 4 | pitch=d 2 | vol=0
368 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=6800
376 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=4784
14: 1: 4 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=1680
12 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4 | bend=0
Is there any way to keep the pitch wheel (or other commands) in MPC's intact? This comes out when the NWC version is re-exported: http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/nwc2/house_ri1.mid (http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/nwc2/house_ri1.mid)
TIA
No.
MPC's are a NoteWorthy construct and must be converted to delta times and MIDI messages for export. The actual
MPC data is lost. Importing it would be like putting tooth paste back in the tube. Tempo (the exception), is imported inexactly and sometimes very verbosely into
one staff. This works because tempo is not channel specific. To import pitch bends this way would require a separate staff for each channel on which a pitch bend occurs, or the data would need to be included on the staff where the notes are. The latter would cause some serious clutter.
You have already started to do what I do, i.e., dump the file to text. With some practice, you will learn how to roughly interpret things and get them back into NWC2.
Rick:
Once again, many thanks.
I'm starting to think some questions of mine on midi are bordering on off-topic for NWC. Can you suggest other online resources for just midi, not directly related to NWC?
MIDI Technical Fanatic's Brainwashing Center (http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/)
MIDI File Format (http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midifile.htm)
Be forwarned: it
is technical, but I was able to write a complete VBScript MIDI decoder from the info on this site.